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Qwertie
1 month ago
Corruption indeed remains common in Ukraine, but your comment brings to mind a mistake that I saw frequently from almost everyone covering this war: the Chinese Robber Fallacy (best explained by Slate Star Codex). Find sources that avoid this and you'll be on the right track.
DomCore
1 month ago
I hope I lose
Qwertie
1 month ago
That seems like the biggest risk for No, but it would represent a change in strategy for Putin, and Putin hasn't changed strategy for about two years now (that strategy being "max agression (short of mobilization) across a wide front"). Also, look up Putin's demands just for a ceasefire. Most of the media didn't report the whole list, maybe because there's so damn much on it.
PsychoSputnik
1 month ago
This is an interesting wager, but the rules are laughable. A temporary armistice or ceasefire is not even remotely comparable to "ending a war". Most conflicts nowadays have multiple of those temporary ceasefires every year.
Qwertie
1 month ago
Actually, I retract that. Investors might happily invest in Ukraine, expecially West Ukraine, but when it comes to moving to Ukraine to open a business without a NATO shield? "Hmm, I'd rather stay alive"
DomCore
1 month ago
I hope I lose
Qwertie
1 month ago
Nah, Canada. Our military is underfunded and badly managed. I'd open a business if I could, but that's one more reason to support NATO and EU membership: investors will avoid Ukraine if another invasion could happen any year. This in turn is among the many reasons Russia and Ukraine can't make an agreement; if Putin have control over Ukraine (and he can't) he'll want to make it poor and powerless instead (but Ukraine prefers that over occupation). Even if Ukraine stops Russia at or before the Donetsk border, I expect long-term economic withering in Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv, Sumy and Chernihiv just because Russia is next door. In any case I'm bullish on Ukraine as a future arms exporter, military training provider, etc.
DomCore
1 month ago
I hope I lose
Qwertie
1 month ago
Yeah, that's why I'm reserving 2500 No shares to donate to a Ukrainian charity if I win (Charity recommendations anyone?)
DomCore
1 month ago
I hope I lose
Qwertie
1 month ago
Did Putin make any demands after the war started? The demands, as I recall, took the form of Tanks rolling toward Kyiv and Mykolaiv, followed my a tweak to the Russian constitution saying "all your Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Lugansk and Donetsk belong to us".
BuckMySalls
1 month ago
y'all are wildly overrating Trump's 'art of the deal' and Putin's willingness to stop fighting - he'll stop any day, as soon as Ukraine complies with the same maximalist demands they made in 2022
Qwertie
1 month ago
Alas, the war's purpose is to kill people until the Soviet stockpiles are gone, so that Putin can measure the glory of the Russian empire in square kilometers.
n/a
1 month ago
As a ukrainian I lost a lot of friends in this war, this war must have a purpose, for those who died in this war Crimea Is Ours
Qwertie
1 month ago
The text of the article doesn't actually suggest a way for a ceasefire to happen, it just alludes to "politcos" in Ukraine thinking it could. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1gqeg3f/volodymyr_zelensky_faces_a_power_struggle_in_2025/
dimmas
1 month ago
Ceasefire and cancellation of martial law in Ukraine may be announced as early as January 20, 2025, - The Economist The publication also reported that May 25, 2025 is the earliest date for elections in Ukraine, which Ukrainian politicians are allegedly discussing. Sources of the publication claim that the regional election headquarters have already started work on the lists of candidates.