#46
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babendums
8 months ago
doesn't giving up count as ending the war?
babendums
8 months ago
why is r pres d pop so cheap? if trump is up on the main market, then this should be way higher
babendums
8 months ago
refs are crooked as fuck
babendums
8 months ago
even rogers didn't think it was a roughing
babendums
8 months ago
fucking jscam
DeucePapi
8 months ago
Refs are on jets side tn
babendums
8 months ago
pass interference call was rigged
babendums
8 months ago
fire that kicker jeez
babendums
8 months ago
rogers old man grampa going to get tired by q2
babendums
8 months ago
im scurred
babendums
8 months ago
nah got sacked.. were back at the 12 or so
blasemerch
8 months ago
i can't watch the game, but i just saw the bengals at the 1 yard line and only went for a field goal?
babendums
8 months ago
MAN WTF bid/ask was showing 97/98, but it filled at 50cents
babendums
8 months ago
y bills can't stop that dude
babendums
8 months ago
wtf polymarket my bills shares are not showing up..
babendums
9 months ago
wtf going on
DeucePapi
9 months ago
Anyone else see the Falcons value on their positions page is $0?
babendums
9 months ago
whats going on with falcons portfolio numbers?
babendums
9 months ago
hard data man, 20th is gone, market is inclusive of the 20th, no positive days
BlackSky123
9 months ago
Less than he thinks he does. He did the same shit with the slur market. He is a very good trader, but sometimes he does silly shit like this.
babendums
9 months ago
clear the cache on your chart. he said hes gonna dispute
Car
9 months ago
What does 50pence know
babendums
9 months ago
yep
FrankyFourFingers
9 months ago
the point is that 20th was never actually finalized as they removed it when they added the 22nd
babendums
9 months ago
everyone clear your cache, 20th is gone
babendums
9 months ago
When saturday printed favourable, Friday disappeared, which means it doesn't count even though it was favourable for awhile. There is no day inclusive that actually shows positive favourability.
babendums
9 months ago
someone dispute this shit..
babendums
9 months ago
its gone, the market is meant to close after the next day prints, and it printed and removed friday. There are no favourable data points between the market dates.
X.x
9 months ago
Youre missing the sept 20th being favorable
babendums
9 months ago
Friday is gone (20th), is gone this resolves No.
babendums
9 months ago
cooked :(
babendums
9 months ago
i think its around 20-21
CookedAlligator
9 months ago
2 more border for it to hit at 25. Yet its selling at 85. FUD is real.
babendums
9 months ago
dude...
babendums
9 months ago
probation department recommended no time, prosecutor recommended a lenient sentence. 70-80% of the time for federal cases, the judge goes with the probation department recommendations. I think this should be weighted to no prison time imo
babendums
9 months ago
Time served resolves to "no prison time" yes, correct?
babendums
9 months ago
what are u talking about the election is rigged, dems will win..
HeHeardANoise
9 months ago
Lesson learned. No more betting when lefist biased polsters have their thumb on the scale. From now on put your money on Trump winning the election; guaranteed win.
babendums
9 months ago
are you retarded? brady is not playing for the patriots anymore..
Ferguson,Turd
9 months ago
would never say this jokingly but the patriots are a lock to come back. never bet against tom brady and bill bellichuck
babendums
9 months ago
Where are you getting 5.25% from? its 6
BalkanDwarf
9 months ago
This will be a close one... the 50bps rate cut today brought 30-year fixed average mortgage rates down to 5.25%. If they cut rates again next month it could go below 5.00%
babendums
9 months ago
he voted for trump in 2016, but i don't think hes registered either way
BioiB
9 months ago
Newly uncovered information about Ryan Routh, the man who planned to shoot President Trump on Sunday at his West Palm Beach golf resort, shows that he’s a long-time Democrat and has donated to several Democratic candidates, the New York Post reports. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/would-be-trump-shooter-ryan-routh-donated-exclusively/
babendums
9 months ago
voted trump in 2016, 2A guy, but past 4 years are a mystery, doubtful he is registered dem. Either break even or double my money on this one.
babendums
9 months ago
anywhere i can see live updates
babendums
9 months ago
whales on the wrong side of this bet..
babendums
9 months ago
huskies.
babendums
9 months ago
hehehe: https://x.com/realDoaaldTrump/status/1834347848768381305
babendums
9 months ago
oh yea like no media outlet didn't report on the last time the trump family got hacked and posted about WLF. Look at the mouth moving its fake a shit.
Justifax
9 months ago
For those unfamiliar with the wsj, they have these people who care called 'editors' and 'fact checkers' that make sure they don't publish news which is just a result of hacked twitter accounts.
babendums
9 months ago
its fake, obviously. super fake
slicknick
9 months ago
wouldnt trump post on his own truth sociial though as well as twitter?
babendums
9 months ago
this is fake car bage
babendums
9 months ago
ur gay
Mountainman
9 months ago
After all the nasty mean things you said to me, have some self respect and take the L. This desperation is pathetic.
babendums
9 months ago
if the post isn't another AI scam...
Justifax
9 months ago
"Trump and his children’s potential involvement in a digital currency" ... it's done, imho.
babendums
9 months ago
https://x.com/jakontilt/status/1834325994401878527
babendums
9 months ago
Have you ever seen a video resolution that low from that exact podium? shit is fake AF, you can see the clipping in some frames
TimeTraveler
9 months ago
I don't think it's fake though, it's just retarded and a quick money grab with a high probability to mess up his campaign and re-election.
babendums
9 months ago
your about to get rekt on your 77cent purchase
NIGGA
9 months ago
I bet this mf doesn't have enough IQ to open a door
babendums
9 months ago
shit is fake af
babendums
9 months ago
why would he himself post a video such low resolution in the same spot he usually does his speeches. That shit is AI fake af shit.
babendums
9 months ago
shit is fake af. he got hacked again.
NIGGA
9 months ago
GGs buddy, keep gambling
babendums
9 months ago
why is the video so low res?
Car
9 months ago
clearly involved: https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1834311432982135015
babendums
9 months ago
LMFAO "concepts of a plan"
babendums
9 months ago
what the count?
ilovesolana
9 months ago
he better not say border
babendums
9 months ago
how many borders???
babendums
9 months ago
How many borders???
babendums
9 months ago
No is cheap here, good luck degens!
babendums
9 months ago
im in for the whale games
babendums
9 months ago
lol mountainman dumping shares
babendums
9 months ago
15+ times border? really? sounds unreasonable
babendums
9 months ago
exactly trump is his own worst enemy when it comes to debates. Biden has literal dimentia, so it wasn't much of a competition.
RememberAmalek
9 months ago
I'm the top holder and I'm not a Kamala supporter :)
babendums
9 months ago
gg
babendums
9 months ago
overtime!
babendums
9 months ago
exactly, it was a value at 30c, at 50/50 it makes sense maybe
SaulGoodmanEsq
9 months ago
I'm stupid, but at least not enough to bet $20K on the Lions at 75c.
babendums
9 months ago
all the moneyline numbers were from the previous season without stafford, hes a game changer
babendums
9 months ago
stafford has lazer hands man
babendums
9 months ago
fuck yea bro
Apsalar
9 months ago
not looking bad!
babendums
9 months ago
you were saying?
SaulGoodmanEsq
9 months ago
The Lions are too good. They're at home. They're in primetime. It's OVER. Ram bros got too cocky...we can't win this...
babendums
9 months ago
can't even get a touchdown without triggering a UMA dispute lmao
WIZZDADDY
9 months ago
Touchdown loading. David Montgomery. Im gonna slap my wife after it hits
babendums
9 months ago
the score is 3 3 lol in Q2
braunajb
9 months ago
this did not age well
babendums
9 months ago
lions receiver just got his ankle squashed
SaulGoodmanEsq
9 months ago
Rams just look more disciplined and Stafford looks so cool. Lions bros...this ain't looking good...
babendums
9 months ago
stafford nailing those passes
infinitiphantom
9 months ago
FAX BRO
babendums
9 months ago
Rams looking strong IMO
babendums
9 months ago
I think Rams is cheap as hell tho, the Stafford is much stronger QB
SaulGoodmanEsq
9 months ago
Rams vs the worst team in the NFL the last 20 years. How are the Lions 70c here?
babendums
9 months ago
if trump had any intelligence and wants to win this election, he will not launch until he is safely past the vote.
polymark
9 months ago
Pushing back on 2 points of FUD that have been brought up: 1. "Crypto is in a bear market right now" Ironically, the same forces (fed policy) that will create a pre-election bull market for Kamala will benefit Trump. Every Crypto bull market correlates with fed policy (QE + Low Rates), this time will be no different, expect a bull market sometime in October and certainly by early Nov 2. "He won't release it pre-election because of SEC or Legal Issues"-- Trump released NFTs with no issues. Crypto is so new (relative to traditional finance) that the regulations around it tend to not keep up with the technology. This gives their legal team plenty of loopholes to exploit & leeway to release the project in a compliant manner. It will be controversial as it will fall in a legal gray area and dems will be upset ofc, but that's not a showstopper & controversy and legal issues are not exactly anathema to Trump lol
babendums
9 months ago
its a literal shit coin: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/09/03/inside-the-trump-crypto-project-linked-to-a-2m-defi-hack-and-former-pick-up-artist/
polymark
9 months ago
Pushing back on 2 points of FUD that have been brought up: 1. "Crypto is in a bear market right now" Ironically, the same forces (fed policy) that will create a pre-election bull market for Kamala will benefit Trump. Every Crypto bull market correlates with fed policy (QE + Low Rates), this time will be no different, expect a bull market sometime in October and certainly by early Nov 2. "He won't release it pre-election because of SEC or Legal Issues"-- Trump released NFTs with no issues. Crypto is so new (relative to traditional finance) that the regulations around it tend to not keep up with the technology. This gives their legal team plenty of loopholes to exploit & leeway to release the project in a compliant manner. It will be controversial as it will fall in a legal gray area and dems will be upset ofc, but that's not a showstopper & controversy and legal issues are not exactly anathema to Trump lol
babendums
9 months ago
we only have 1 or 2 cuts before the election, also we are not heading into a soft landing, truflation numbers indicate deflationary bust not inflation. That is even worse than high rates of inflation. NFTs are akin to trading cards, whereas an actual coin with dubious tokenomics and pretty much looks like a ponzi to suck in capital from trump degens will get a TON of regulatory scrutiny if it launches pre election.
polymark
9 months ago
Pushing back on 2 points of FUD that have been brought up: 1. "Crypto is in a bear market right now" Ironically, the same forces (fed policy) that will create a pre-election bull market for Kamala will benefit Trump. Every Crypto bull market correlates with fed policy (QE + Low Rates), this time will be no different, expect a bull market sometime in October and certainly by early Nov 2. "He won't release it pre-election because of SEC or Legal Issues"-- Trump released NFTs with no issues. Crypto is so new (relative to traditional finance) that the regulations around it tend to not keep up with the technology. This gives their legal team plenty of loopholes to exploit & leeway to release the project in a compliant manner. It will be controversial as it will fall in a legal gray area and dems will be upset ofc, but that's not a showstopper & controversy and legal issues are not exactly anathema to Trump lol
babendums
9 months ago
mgm moneyline..
SaulGoodmanEsq
9 months ago
Rams vs the worst team in the NFL the last 20 years. How are the Lions 70c here?
babendums
9 months ago
Yea I don't see TvH anywhere with those numbers, do you have a link?
SaulG
9 months ago
What poll are people expecting Sunday right before the debate?
babendums
9 months ago
Look at the LV, where would the LV number come from if it wasn't a legit poll?
SaulG
9 months ago
What poll are people expecting Sunday right before the debate?
babendums
9 months ago
1. Crypto is extremely bearish, launching anytime soon will be straight up dump for his election. 2. Massive regulatory issues pre election, SEC will come after them if they retain 70% of tokens, maybe they launch after. 3. even after, it breaks all sorts of regulatory laws like " Emoluments Clause". No way this launches with his name on it before the election.
babendums
9 months ago
but you are right to some degree it looks like, and why i have deleveraged a bit.
SaulG
9 months ago
What poll are people expecting Sunday right before the debate?
babendums
9 months ago
Doesn't take much to move Sunday up .1. Rarely do they print the same number for 3 days in a row, and there is an updwards trendline.
SaulG
9 months ago
What poll are people expecting Sunday right before the debate?
babendums
9 months ago
That doesn't make RCP a screw up.. If what you say is true, the data on RCP is valid. Just won't make it into 538
SaulG
9 months ago
What poll are people expecting Sunday right before the debate?
babendums
9 months ago
How is it a screw up, its a valid poll
SaulG
9 months ago
What poll are people expecting Sunday right before the debate?
babendums
9 months ago
Morning Consults 9/2 - 9/4 still not added
SaulG
9 months ago
What poll are people expecting Sunday right before the debate?
babendums
9 months ago
very good chance that she gets subpoenad but, subpoeanas are not always public. we may not find out until well past the resolution date.
babendums
9 months ago
right, when Monday graph point appears, they take the Sunday value, and as long as that is positive, this goes Yes.
grappli
9 months ago
It will probably resolve on Monday, when the graph is updated
babendums
9 months ago
This Resolves Yes, as long as we have literally any favourability (not unfavorability), positive number on Sunday right?
babendums
9 months ago
lots of +EV bets here if you compare with betmgm
babendums
9 months ago
you are not making any sense bro. I am a NO.
BabyYoda12
9 months ago
Dont we have to one more rating- i.e 7th september rating? These are the rules -The favorability ratings for each day must be finalized before they are considered for this market (namely once the next data point is available, the previous one is finalized). The resolution source will be FiveThirtyEight's rating poll aggregator, https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/kamala-harris/, specifically the favorability rating indicated by the purple "favorable" trend line for the resolution date. Changes in the methodology by which FiveThirtyEight calculates the favorability rating will have no bearing on the resolution of this market. This market will resolve once the first data point after September 6, 2024, is published. If no such data point is available by September 13, 2024, 11:59 PM ET, this market will resolve to 'No.'"
babendums
9 months ago
you guys are dump, the market closes when you get the 7th data point, but its the favourability rating within the period (inclusive of the 6th), not the 7th.
BabyYoda12
9 months ago
Dont we have to one more rating- i.e 7th september rating? These are the rules -The favorability ratings for each day must be finalized before they are considered for this market (namely once the next data point is available, the previous one is finalized). The resolution source will be FiveThirtyEight's rating poll aggregator, https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/kamala-harris/, specifically the favorability rating indicated by the purple "favorable" trend line for the resolution date. Changes in the methodology by which FiveThirtyEight calculates the favorability rating will have no bearing on the resolution of this market. This market will resolve once the first data point after September 6, 2024, is published. If no such data point is available by September 13, 2024, 11:59 PM ET, this market will resolve to 'No.'"
babendums
9 months ago
bro its rigged, she will win..
0x2aB890a2d9e0DA3502a3D84807c0D1b5429D4441-1725290836240
9 months ago
IF AENews is so good with Data why did he buy so many shares for Kamala Harris to win the presidency?
babendums
9 months ago
GG
babendums
9 months ago
locked in my profits, whoever wins, amazing game.
babendums
9 months ago
i don't understand this market. Let's bet on it!
babendums
9 months ago
Da Eagles
babendums
9 months ago
why don't u just let people buy Nos if you are so sure on resolution. makes no sense you post here every day all day, to "save" people other than you are probably trying to pump your bags to dump on people
Mountainman
9 months ago
This thread has gotten so repetitive. "YES" is a forgone conclusion, and this wouldn't even be a convo without the one LOON that market bought 100k worth of NO..... but for those under water go over to "Will Joe Biden pardon Hunter' right now!!! It is at .20 cent and NYPOST just said: "Sources told The Post that President Biden is expected to pardon his troubled son." THIS THING IS GOING TO FLY!!!! We're buying dollars for 20 cents!!!!
babendums
9 months ago
does 538 go back and change previous days like RCP?
babendums
9 months ago
liqudity sucks in this markert
babendums
9 months ago
good chance we get an update before 8, definetly scared, could be a easy win for the Kam Kams
babendums
9 months ago
are you saying RCP doesn't have fresh numbers from MCP?
SaulG
9 months ago
The morning consult poll wint be added. It has not changed, and RCP is mistaken in reusing the numbers
babendums
9 months ago
Morning Consult for 9/4 could be added however right..
Oompa-Loompa-01
9 months ago
This is an interesting one. Arguments for the flip: the resolution source is updated several times a day and the two polls mentioned by cryptofreedom have not been included yet. Against: if there are multiple polls from the same house, their weight is decreased. Actually if "a pollster releases multiple polls within a 14-day window, those polls together receive the weight of one normal poll". The last Morning Consult poll is for Aug 30 - Sep 1 and the one before that is for Aug 23 - Aug 25. Therefore the new one doesn't have to change much. Moreover, the poll results are not always added to 538 on the same day. So if the market is really resolved as soon as a new data point (Sep 6) emerges, it might as well be without the new poll data.
babendums
9 months ago
"after" the 6th as in tomorrow? confused on these rules
babendums
9 months ago
what triggers the market to close?
babendums
9 months ago
what triggers the market to close?
SaulG
9 months ago
The morning consult poll wint be added. It has not changed, and RCP is mistaken in reusing the numbers
babendums
9 months ago
go away broke back mountain..
Mountainman
9 months ago
There seems to be much controversy here... can somebody give me the breakdown?
babendums
9 months ago
twas hedged, no matter to me.
BlackSky123
9 months ago
"1.5hrs left boys and girls, Kam is up, and has it locked here on out. The rig is in. Better to go with the flow than against it." - babendumbs
babendums
9 months ago
just doing my piece to manipulate my friend
BlackSky123
9 months ago
"1.5hrs left boys and girls, Kam is up, and has it locked here on out. The rig is in. Better to go with the flow than against it." - babendumbs
babendums
9 months ago
lets do it again
babendums
9 months ago
that was fun lol. Whales got burned this time..
babendums
9 months ago
1.5hrs left boys and girls, Kam is up, and has it locked here on out. The rig is in. Better to go with the flow than against it.
babendums
9 months ago
look at the trend, trumpers are fucked.
betyonko
9 months ago
I don't get why people are selling. There can't read the rules. Trump has around 65points already. That means he has to win just 26/94 remaining.
babendums
9 months ago
its rigged, better get with the program, and quick.
Astronaut
9 months ago
Its crazy how much it moved today, did something else happen or did people ACTUALLY try to rig this shit
babendums
9 months ago
halfway through boys and girls, and we are trending hard in the Kam direction. This is going to be great!
babendums
9 months ago
Yea i mean Kam will definetly win, so its pretty smart for going in all in now if you were planning to anyways, then you add a bunch of leverage here to 20x your gainz..
Kalags
9 months ago
Its not manipulation look at polls. We just waited to start doing this now.
babendums
9 months ago
all in on Kam on both markets for 20x gainzzzzzz, lets get it.
babendums
9 months ago
not sure man its starting to flip
betyonko
9 months ago
it is impossible to manipulate a 800m market. you should have billions to spend
babendums
9 months ago
trump is fucked.
babendums
9 months ago
whales are all gone..
babendums
9 months ago
Lol "smart guys"
Mountainman
9 months ago
That is what they said about the Andrew Tate market. For days it was left open because people said he wasn't arrested, he was just "detained". And smart guys like me bought up the most obvious trade of all time, waited for the proposal, and cashed out. Not to mention that you are saying "it's vibes" here, when in your last point you were completely technical. Which one is it?
babendums
9 months ago
Whales are going to dump on you just because you are annoying
Mountainman
9 months ago
You can't dump now, you would lose $80,000 instantly and "YES" would hit .99 cents. There is no liquidity to dump into. You own more "NO" token than the following next 14 "NO" buyers COMBINED. Without your purchase this would be .90+ "YES" right now. Coin and token are interchangeable as Polymarket used the word coin once, and the word token twice when describing the market. If you want to get very specific on a token v.s a coin... He literally dropped a Token last week.
babendums
9 months ago
Trump would get rekt in the election if he gets associated with this WLF ponzi. No way he lets it go live with his name on it. Its a literal ponzi.
JohnathanDoe
9 months ago
COIN clearly means that it is a original crypto coin like "$TRUMPY", or $TRUMPUSD, not a Nft lul. Why does everyone have to get extremly techincal, and not underrstand the simple meaning of the market?
babendums
9 months ago
You are annoying bro.
Mountainman
9 months ago
Bloomberg, MSNBC, Coindesk.... and the list goes on, have all confirmed Trump's involvement .... Along with the official white paper. But "NO" holders are hoping to dupe unaware newbs into buying their bags. All you have to do is use Google. It is all there.
babendums
9 months ago
If you are so sure, just propose..
Lichas
9 months ago
Shouldn't this already be resolved since Trump did NFT a while back?
babendums
9 months ago
No. NFTs are not in scope. Coins only.
Lichas
9 months ago
Shouldn't this already be resolved since Trump did NFT a while back?
babendums
9 months ago
Looks like a complete ponzi if its real. 70% owned by insiders, and no transfers? I dont think that qualifies as a coin if it cant be transferred like a coin.
JR2
9 months ago
https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-elections-crypto-cryptocurrency-treasury-blockchain-29df24818d03e557c6c434533052b33c - Amidst his run for president, Trump has launched a new venture to trade cryptocurrencies that he’s promoting on the same social media accounts he uses for his campaign.
babendums
9 months ago
Pot, kettle, black
Mountainman
9 months ago
Just so the new people on here don't get sucked in to buying "NO". 10% of the Whole Market Value, was market bought last night when a negative PNL'er market bought $100,000 of "NO". Without him, this would be in the .90's. He is underwater now, and as soon as he starts unwinding "YES" is going to fly and "NO" will plummet, so be careful. Smart money is all on "YES".
babendums
9 months ago
The title says coin not token. This thing is a No for sure. Why tf would trump launch a coin. Makes no sense.
babendums
9 months ago
indeed
0x2aB890a2d9e0DA3502a3D84807c0D1b5429D4441-1725290836240
9 months ago
I'm sure your Financial Advisor would agree.
babendums
9 months ago
im hedged. yes breaks me even, No makes me riches
babendums
9 months ago
he dropped NFTs in 2023
Mountainman
9 months ago
Actually additional context does not make it clear. I interpret it completely differently. And you are talking about context that was added in JUNE, the NFT dropped last week. Not to mention that it is completely irrelevant because the coin will be launched at any moment and then it's curtains.
babendums
9 months ago
why what happends friday?
Fred19999
9 months ago
This is a fun market. It's going to get crazy on Friday
babendums
9 months ago
Additional context makes it clear. Prior tokens would be considered, there have been prior NFT drops which are not considered in scope.
Mountainman
9 months ago
Please show me where you read that Non-Fungible TOKENS are not TOKENS.
babendums
9 months ago
NFTs are NOT in scope of this market.
babendums
9 months ago
Gg
babendums
9 months ago
you keep saying that.
dankdank
9 months ago
i have the announcement but im waiting for coinbase to unlock my liquidity
babendums
9 months ago
Down 600 not quite
Mountainman
9 months ago
You can let me know how it feels, you would know.
babendums
9 months ago
Lol cP you lost the last one bad, what like 10k? And I'm the bad trader..
Pidor🐓
9 months ago
you are really the worst trader on the site
babendums
9 months ago
Enjoy losing your shirt
Mountainman
9 months ago
As others say, you are the worst trader on the site.
babendums
9 months ago
Dank dank, you can exit now...
babendums
9 months ago
Yall are dumb, he legally cant launch a coin as a nominee without tons of regulatory issues let alone if he becomes prez.
babendums
9 months ago
Plausible
XiJinPing
9 months ago
literally 5 fresh accounts with 1 market traded all-in YES. only explanation is this is insider classmates at NYU
babendums
9 months ago
Games afoot
PolyPollUser
9 months ago
The Yes's have no idea whats coming
babendums
9 months ago
JustKam on the No side. This thing is a lock.
babendums
9 months ago
Scammer.
Mountainman
9 months ago
Polymarket is like crypto trading on steroids. Just so fun. If you are just able to not be influenced by the scammers and follows facts it's such a blast. Trump literally announced this project and you still have the chance to 2x your money because people lie to get out of their underwater positions.
babendums
9 months ago
We know..
Mountainman
9 months ago
I know. People don't even know what it stands for crazy. The name is literally right in there.
babendums
9 months ago
NFTs definitely count!
Amok
9 months ago
UMA will rule the nft a token
babendums
9 months ago
Jokes..
Amok
9 months ago
UMA will rule the nft a token
babendums
9 months ago
Also looks like a ponzi lol
0xFJAFJKLDSKF7JKFDJ
9 months ago
https://x.com/LaraLeaTrump/status/1831128762408476699?t=NJOZR7LbMVurqZa8v54dqg&s=19 "Our goal at World Liberty, is to utilize our governance token on Solana, $WL, to support our DeFi lending protocol." Seems this should count, when that token is available?
babendums
9 months ago
Lara and Eric Trump are not Donald
0xFJAFJKLDSKF7JKFDJ
9 months ago
https://x.com/LaraLeaTrump/status/1831128762408476699?t=NJOZR7LbMVurqZa8v54dqg&s=19 "Our goal at World Liberty, is to utilize our governance token on Solana, $WL, to support our DeFi lending protocol." Seems this should count, when that token is available?
babendums
9 months ago
I'm guessing if it resolves the other way it will get disputed.
Mountainman
9 months ago
Is an NFT a token?
babendums
9 months ago
Also if it was, this market would already be closed.
Mountainman
9 months ago
Is an NFT a token?
babendums
9 months ago
You are biased. NFTs have been launched by Trump many times. I dont think that was the purpose of this market despite NFT being a type of token.
Mountainman
9 months ago
Is an NFT a token?
babendums
9 months ago
Polymarket, add some damn contexf on NFT being counted or not.
babendums
9 months ago
does baron trump doing something count?
babendums
9 months ago
Tick tock..
babendums
9 months ago
why not vote No
Dick Cheney
10 months ago
I don’t have access to discord. Can someone request a duplicate version of this market for “Harris wins all swing states?”
babendums
9 months ago
the problem with this one is the gray area of "endorse", not sure if you saw what happend with RFK.. I want to bet on this one but im scurred
HaterzLoserz
9 months ago
This could go either way, but 20c seems like decent price to me on No. The endorsement may yet come, she didnt endorse Biden until early October. However, she has many tour dates in the US leading up to the election, including the 1st, 2nd and 3rd of November. She has stated that she wouldnt say or do anything that would put fans attending her concerts at risk or possibly attract violence. Seems like considering how big it would be in the media, theres a decent chance she doesnt say anything official but more abstractly supports Harris without overtly endorsing her. Just a matter of how strategic Taylor is going to be vs speaking her mind publicly. Either way, shes entitled to do her thing and its a fun bet, my sister in law would be proud of me :D
babendums
9 months ago
sensitive much?
Grrrenouille
9 months ago
Why is Harris referred to by her first name and not Trump? I'm sure it's unintentional, but it's not great
babendums
9 months ago
FYI, a dismissal is not a Mistrial. Polymarket better not scam if that happens..
babendums
9 months ago
he may go to west point..
OmenOfLord
9 months ago
There are only 4 schools in the state. He has a pretty high probability of NYU if you look at top 3 universities its ~65% of students go to NYU. If you take Cornell out since it's not in New York City (where Baron Lived for part of his life) It's more like 80-20. So either bren has insider info, or is straight gambling like the rest of us. This is my research on why yes makes sense.
babendums
9 months ago
hedged my bets, either break even or double my money. suprised this market isn't closer
babendums
9 months ago
They updated 30th on a weekend, so likely they update today, if not tomorrow. either way, there are no trump weighted polls expected other than maybe Ras which won't drop until the 4th.
n/a
9 months ago
This should resolve before the end of the day at +1.8 for Kamala and this market will resolve in her favor
babendums
9 months ago
Fox isn't for awhile drake, based on historical, 7th-10th for the polling period to even start, which means fox doesn't come out until the last week or two of september.
Justifax
9 months ago
Activote dramatically trending to trump - - Trends Aug. 14 - 🔵 Harris +4.8 Aug. 23 - 🔵 Harris +5.2 Sept. 2 - 🔵 Harris +1.6
babendums
9 months ago
I&I/TIPP**
babendums
9 months ago
IBD/TIPP is +3 from what I can tell. https://tippinsights.com/harris-hangs-on-to-overall-lead-but-trump-maintains-his-hold-on-vital-swing-states-i-i-tipp-poll/
babendums
9 months ago
I'm just waiting for this to close so i can rotate funds. Trumpers probably a good time to take some funds off the table so you dont get fully rekt.
babendums
9 months ago
IBD/TIPP is +3 from what I can tell. https://tippinsights.com/harris-hangs-on-to-overall-lead-but-trump-maintains-his-hold-on-vital-swing-states-i-i-tipp-poll/
babendums
9 months ago
This is for 8/28 to 8/30
babendums
9 months ago
IBD/TIPP is +3 from what I can tell. https://tippinsights.com/harris-hangs-on-to-overall-lead-but-trump-maintains-his-hold-on-vital-swing-states-i-i-tipp-poll/
babendums
9 months ago
IBD/TIPP is +3 from what I can tell. https://tippinsights.com/harris-hangs-on-to-overall-lead-but-trump-maintains-his-hold-on-vital-swing-states-i-i-tipp-poll/
babendums
9 months ago
There is no other poll that will come in. TIPP is the only one that will have any measureable impact to 8/30
Justifax
9 months ago
Activote dramatically trending to trump - - Trends Aug. 14 - 🔵 Harris +4.8 Aug. 23 - 🔵 Harris +5.2 Sept. 2 - 🔵 Harris +1.6
babendums
9 months ago
Oh yea TIPP could come in, but itd have to come in really low to make any difference.
Justifax
9 months ago
Activote dramatically trending to trump - - Trends Aug. 14 - 🔵 Harris +4.8 Aug. 23 - 🔵 Harris +5.2 Sept. 2 - 🔵 Harris +1.6
babendums
9 months ago
Read the additional context.
Plutos
9 months ago
this is not how it works bro. you have to wait till data for aug 31 is available, and then we compare aug 23 (1.7) with aug 30 (?)
babendums
9 months ago
23 was 1.6. Once we get a 31 graph print, 23 will be compared with 30.
Plutos
9 months ago
this is not how it works bro. you have to wait till data for aug 31 is available, and then we compare aug 23 (1.7) with aug 30 (?)
babendums
9 months ago
I dont think RCP uses TIPP. Not in the list.
Justifax
9 months ago
No, this resolves as soon as they update tipp. could be in the next ten minutes.
babendums
9 months ago
Correct.
n/a
9 months ago
This should resolve before the end of the day at +1.8 for Kamala and this market will resolve in her favor
babendums
9 months ago
Drake, no, we dont need all the data to come in for 31 to print. Most of the right leaning polls wont come until the 4th like Ras, or Fox which is more than a week away. Just look at the historical polls and the days they cover.
Justifax
9 months ago
Activote dramatically trending to trump - - Trends Aug. 14 - 🔵 Harris +4.8 Aug. 23 - 🔵 Harris +5.2 Sept. 2 - 🔵 Harris +1.6
babendums
9 months ago
You guys are failing to realize this market only goes to 8/30 on the graph, and closes oncs 31 prints. In that sense, we already have our outcome. Some noise in the data isnt going to move this thing more that 0.1
Justifax
9 months ago
Activote dramatically trending to trump - - Trends Aug. 14 - 🔵 Harris +4.8 Aug. 23 - 🔵 Harris +5.2 Sept. 2 - 🔵 Harris +1.6
babendums
9 months ago
Sept 2 doesnt impact 8/30
Justifax
9 months ago
Activote dramatically trending to trump - - Trends Aug. 14 - 🔵 Harris +4.8 Aug. 23 - 🔵 Harris +5.2 Sept. 2 - 🔵 Harris +1.6
babendums
9 months ago
Still +3 on activote
Justifax
9 months ago
Activote dramatically trending to trump - - Trends Aug. 14 - 🔵 Harris +4.8 Aug. 23 - 🔵 Harris +5.2 Sept. 2 - 🔵 Harris +1.6
babendums
9 months ago
Lol
Justifax
9 months ago
Drake has convinced me.
babendums
9 months ago
I'll take that lick. Mistakes were made.
babendums
9 months ago
Cant wait to rotate my winnings into another trumper cognitive dissonance alpha market
babendums
9 months ago
Cant wait to rotate my winnings into another trumper cognitive dissonance alpha market
babendums
9 months ago
I'm bored when does this market close..
babendums
9 months ago
I'm bored when does this market close..
babendums
9 months ago
You are missing something
Au-gust
9 months ago
Trump seems kinda underpriced? Harris declined .4 and Trump .6. Just need a trump+1 print to tie the change from aug 23rd... unless im missing something
babendums
9 months ago
Cope
wyn
9 months ago
I am fully aware and acknowledging that if Kamala receives a favourable poll this market will be on the brink of resulting to kamala, however, all trump needs is one great poll and this market will swing back in trumps favour. hence, leverage ! also taking into consideration that trump has become the favourite by a significant amount within the last 3-5 days, in which the polls are currently outdated and behind/lagging current trends !!
babendums
9 months ago
End date is sentencing or election
Cryptochrema
11 months ago
What is the end date on this one months before the November 4 declared in the about section?
babendums
9 months ago
I dont think you understand this market.
wyn
9 months ago
The polymarket election odds are in Trumps favour by .03 which is inane and yet this market trump is lagging. This is a large inefficiency!! Buy now before its too late
babendums
9 months ago
which logic would that be ser?
MrNFT
9 months ago
not a trumper, just logic
babendums
9 months ago
I'm learning the ways ser
Pidor🐓
9 months ago
you're very, very bad at this site.
babendums
9 months ago
Yea got scammed on Joy/joyful. And I'm new to the site, accidentally had a limit oeder open on a twitter ban market. But my comment still stands.
aaabbb
9 months ago
seriouly? bragging about free alpha when your account carries a negative P&L?
babendums
9 months ago
Ras isnt dropping until 3rd or 4th
diddy
9 months ago
If Rasmussen drops 29, 30, Kamala is so dead, https://x.com/rasmussen_poll/status/1829906619733602353?s=46&t=_7tYBcMVFR6IgKD4ztkf-Q
babendums
9 months ago
Nah, we get a close tomorrow. Prints are coming in a day and a half later
babendums
9 months ago
additional context clearly says once we get a 31st print this is done.
babendums
9 months ago
i love profiting off of trumpers cognitive dissonance. its a beautiful thing. Polymarket is skewed right, so its free alpha.
babendums
9 months ago
additional context clearly says once we get a 31st print this is done.
MrNFT
9 months ago
I think we will know either tues or weds
babendums
9 months ago
So the additional context actually says Day7 is Aug30. That means this market is already technically finished, Day 31 just locks in the 7 day period. Not sure how this isn't 99/1
Meow.Zedong
9 months ago
Okay I’m going to phrase this a different way. Is this market based on each candidates personal polling averages from the specified dates irrespective of candidate position to each other? In essence this is about each candidates own momentum not where they stand.
babendums
9 months ago
even Rasmussen won't be able to bring this thing down at this point because its only 3 days of polling data even possible from them.
babendums
9 months ago
simple, Harris was at 1.6 on Aug 23, if the graph shows 1.7 or higher, when we get the graph print for 8/31, this market resolves Harris.
Meow.Zedong
9 months ago
Okay I’m going to phrase this a different way. Is this market based on each candidates personal polling averages from the specified dates irrespective of candidate position to each other? In essence this is about each candidates own momentum not where they stand.
babendums
9 months ago
Wdym?
Justifax
9 months ago
So does 23rd change to 2 and 28 change to 2.3?
babendums
9 months ago
if i had more free cash id be buying more harris.. all national polling averages are trending to harris even as of 8/30
AppleADay
9 months ago
ladies and gentlemen, this guy just punted his last 50 dollars into my wallet
babendums
9 months ago
lol its only 3 days of polling
MrNFT
9 months ago
Rasmussen polls that closed today 8/31 will be among the last batch by RCP after the weekend. Trump is up nicely in them! EZ LOCK
babendums
9 months ago
Yea nothing out to 31
EdgyUsername
9 months ago
Morning consult dropped earlier this week.
babendums
9 months ago
M consult still hasnt dropped and we are still at 1.8. Rasumussen is in for most of days. This thing is easily going harris.
babendums
9 months ago
Nate silver says slight dip, still leading significantly on national polling. Not sure where u getting this shit..
diddy
9 months ago
Nate Silver gave bad numbers on Kamala these last days, polls may go very wrong for her & CNN made it worse
babendums
9 months ago
Look at the top holders, all positive PNL whales. I'll go with the big dawgs.
diddy
9 months ago
Nate Silver gave bad numbers on Kamala these last days, polls may go very wrong for her & CNN made it worse
babendums
9 months ago
Kamalas getting impatient lol. This one should be easy win guys. Nothings changed in the past few days
babendums
9 months ago
1
MrNFT
9 months ago
Actually this is close than I thought, Harris was only up 1.7 on Aug 23.
babendums
9 months ago
How is this yes on teacher when Harris Joyful was No, fucking scam
babendums
9 months ago
Does this auto close tonight even if no day 8 print?
babendums
9 months ago
Wtf are u talking about its 1.8
Spartan37
9 months ago
To be clear, even if Harris wins this market, Trump still gained in the polls. The post-RFK polls have Harris +1.5, and of course there's the major sampling errors in some polls which give the illusion that Harris still leads.
babendums
9 months ago
When do we get the next RCP print?
babendums
9 months ago
When do we get a print?
babendums
9 months ago
Vague market rules, poly will scam
Justifax
9 months ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3rnl5qv3o - The platform is expected to be unavailable in the country within the next 24 hours. It's done.
babendums
9 months ago
There is nothing announced from brazil supreme court or any credible source.
Slaylorswift
9 months ago
https://x.com/rawsglobal/status/1829607870838788459?s=46
babendums
9 months ago
This is fake
Slaylorswift
9 months ago
https://x.com/rawsglobal/status/1829607870838788459?s=46
babendums
9 months ago
Trumpers cooked on this one
n/a
9 months ago
New poll: https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1829603009598247294
babendums
9 months ago
Good luck brudda. Agrree on UMA being cuckheads
Ferguson,Turd
9 months ago
this makret is about whatver you think it could be about, personally i have no idea lets just all be kind to each other and bet more
babendums
9 months ago
Yes and trump dropped farther than harris that is clear
Justifax
9 months ago
This market is about the graph. The additional context is very clear about that. You are of course free to pony up $750 if you disagree, but if you're wrong, you will lose it all.
babendums
9 months ago
Free money
babendums
9 months ago
Yep this is obviously a Harris win
babendums
9 months ago
Yep this is obviously a Harris win
diddy
9 months ago
Clarification: This market isn’t about polls. It is about whose position improves or decreases, comparing Day 0 relative to day 7. At Day 0, Kamala was at 48.5 vs 46.9 Trump. At Day 7 Kamala is at 48.2 vs 46.4 Trump. Kamala lost 0.2 points, Trump lost 0.5 points. Position of Kamala has improved over the 8-day period. This is how market concludes with current numbers. Graphs are just visual representation of data.
babendums
9 months ago
Lmao it worked yesses sold off into my bags
babendums
9 months ago
Trumps got this in the bag...
babendums
9 months ago
Trumps got this in the bag...
babendums
9 months ago
Bar stools are a type of chair, this is another scam market
BlackSky123
10 months ago
They will be given bar stools, not chairs. Resolves no.
babendums
9 months ago
More like you are a poly shill.
theta-thunberg
10 months ago
beware, there is a scammer named baal operating on this website!
babendums
9 months ago
Ah I see. Another scam market.
babendums
9 months ago
We get it. Your annoying.
princess4trump
9 months ago
Kamala sucks
babendums
10 months ago
Yea maybe, this is white collar crime tho, hes not gonna run
sharky🦈🦈🦈
10 months ago
makes him a massive flight risk
babendums
10 months ago
Hes a billionaire, he will bond out after they charge him
babendums
10 months ago
They can hold him only for 4 days, so he will bond out right?
Justifax
10 months ago
They have to charge him first I think.
babendums
10 months ago
Why doesnt he bond out?
babendums
10 months ago
Rfk market bro, rfk never endorserd trump nor dropped out, media reported it wrong and all the markets resolved wrong.
MarkPolygonHVN
10 months ago
What do you mean?
babendums
10 months ago
whats the point it will resolve to Yes eventually even if it hasn't
n/a
10 months ago
BIGGOTs are trying to argue that it’s a boy when it HAS NOT BEEN DISCLOSED by a representative spokesperson or one of
babendums
10 months ago
why is the market not closed?
babendums
10 months ago
this was a scam market for sure
PocketShibe
10 months ago
its not looking good for us joybros but we can still hope
babendums
10 months ago
UMA are cucks
babendums
10 months ago
when i say right thing, i mean atleast resolve 50/50 because VERY clearly its a strong Yes argument, with a minor argument that can be made on the No side, that should resolve flat..
babendums
10 months ago
when i say right thing, i mean atleast resolve 50/50 because VERY clearly its a strong Yes argument, with a minor argument that can be made on the No side, that should resolve flat..
babendums
10 months ago
just jumped back in at 1cent, already lost 900$ betting on this market, fuck it ,maybe poly does the right thing here and I can break even, otherwise i lose 10 oh well
babendums
10 months ago
just jumped back in at 1cent, already lost 900$ betting on this market, fuck it ,maybe poly does the right thing here and I can break even, otherwise i lose 10 oh well
babendums
10 months ago
I can't find you in discord, can you link me to your original post? Few of the mods are going to take it up with poly
RaIsTheSunGod
10 months ago
I'll once again mention. I requested Joyful. Joy appeared without request by anyone. The only reason to add Joy is to simplify and Joy based words which is obvious to anyone not being pedantic (used for humour don't know if that is correct I do not live in an english speaking country) Joy was added to simplify as the only other reason it would have been added instead of the requested joyful would be to deceive.
babendums
10 months ago
stay away from endorse and mention markets, poly will scam
babendums
10 months ago
They are saying the additional context was made in error
babendums
10 months ago
@RaIsTheSunGod If you can tell me where you proposed the original market some of the mods are going to take this up with poly
babendums
10 months ago
@RaIsTheSunGod If you can tell me where you proposed the original market some of the mods are going to take this up with poly
babendums
10 months ago
exactly what happened here and on joy markets
Justifax
10 months ago
Look at aenews profit in this market. You got scammed big time by him. He is by far the worst of everyone in this market. He bought low, went in UMA and pumped it up, and then dumped on you. Polymarket facilitates his scamming with these vague rules. This is not what prediction markets are for. This shit has got to stop.
babendums
10 months ago
Have fun risky it all on a demonstrably incorrect resolution
BlackSky123
10 months ago
They will be so mad when their 2 cent yeses don't hit
babendums
10 months ago
as usual zero evidence just shit talking
nickinquent
10 months ago
nigga its 100% safe that its "no", yall niggas really think they gonna change their mind after twice saying no? vro nigga they just leaked it in the additional context, yall dumb as shit yo. get your shit together lil niggas. cope.
babendums
10 months ago
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
MrNFT
10 months ago
I do understand the argument for affixation instead of being compound though
babendums
10 months ago
scalping disputes, really creative
BlackSky123
10 months ago
Seeing yestards seethe makes me very joyful.
babendums
10 months ago
the right thing is to give it more time for the campaign to clarify
Justifax
10 months ago
you can't binarize truth, it's too complex. you can however binarize / create prediction markets for headlines. Did he endorse? Yes / No. The headlines said yes.
babendums
10 months ago
Yea man i have been on a journey the past 2 days learning about language all for a bet lol. But yea its pretty clear it should resolve to Yes.
Randomchooser
10 months ago
i also found this explanation: Merriam-Webster considers words formed with suffixes, such as "-ful," as compound words because a suffix like "-ful" can act as an element that modifies the root word, similar to how two full words combine in other compounds. When suffixes like "-ful" are attached, they can create words that are conceptually similar to compound words even if they are treated slightly differently grammatically. The flexibility in how compound words are classified allows for this inclusion, as English compounds can range from simple pairings of standalone words to more complex structures involving prefixes, suffixes, and hyphens. This approach highlights the dynamic nature of language and its adaptability​. This seems to clarify why M-W includes joyful as a compound word. It's going to Yes as u guys said before, it seems. What a semantics lesson!
babendums
10 months ago
Your statement is false, MW literally lists "-ful" words as compound https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
Randomchooser
10 months ago
Merriam-Webster Dictionary: a compound word is "a word consisting of components that are words." Compound words combine the meanings of their parts to create a new concept. Sadly, Joyful isn't a compound word, anyway i encourage to simplify rules : do no allow any other forms , (i.e. if we bet on Joy, only Joy will count) not because the rules aren't clear enough but because people can't understand them completely.
babendums
10 months ago
I mean UMA holders vote, the betters provide evidence of their positions. Yes has a far stronger position.
ekimika
10 months ago
Does the voting hold any impact on the actual resolution?
babendums
10 months ago
Theoretically yes
ekimika
10 months ago
Does the voting hold any impact on the actual resolution?
babendums
10 months ago
Rejoice is a derivation that is not a compound of joy. Joyful is a compound word that can also be considered a derivation in some linguistic frameworks
isaidway
10 months ago
Ok, found it: derivation. Which "joyful" is an example of.
babendums
10 months ago
Link?
isaidway
10 months ago
Ok, found it: derivation. Which "joyful" is an example of.
babendums
10 months ago
Not true banklin, it was at 70% post speech, only after clarification did it drop
Dmoney123
10 months ago
looks like they are voting "yes"
babendums
10 months ago
The evidence/rationale section is very clear.
Dmoney123
10 months ago
looks like they are voting "yes"
babendums
10 months ago
I mean the broader pool that it resolved to yes, before the corrupt clarification, the market was sitting at 70% yes.
Dmoney123
10 months ago
looks like they are voting "yes"
babendums
10 months ago
The only reason this market isnt closer to 5050 is people have lost faith in polymarket and UMA to do the right thing. This site is just becoming one rug pull after another.
babendums
10 months ago
Personal attacks instead of evidence against the proof.
BlackSky123
10 months ago
RelayThief: "dumb bitches here really do be crying "OH NO, MY 100x PLAY ISN'T CASHING, NEVER GONNA USE POLY AGAIN!" as if we didn't tell your dumb asses you were lighting money on fire, you halfwits, you imbeciles, you drooling CRETINS!"
babendums
10 months ago
Its literally there in black and white, explicitly "-ful" words are considered compound words
HsB34sgg
10 months ago
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide
babendums
10 months ago
That still allows joyful to be a compound. Its only ful and not full because its on a stem. Also, "-ful" is explicitly included in the compounding rules.
gary22
10 months ago
Note + Book, Sun + Flower, Moon + Light. All of them can be used separately and still hold meaning
babendums
10 months ago
No holders are also linguistic professors apparently also..
BlackSky123
10 months ago
No holders are attractive, intelligent, and productive. Yes holders are ugly, stupid, and lazy.
babendums
10 months ago
exactly.. the No voters all posting bought their positions after the corrupt statement was made..
xdbrhzdfxcbzdtn
10 months ago
Interesting, thanks much! I guess I gotta start researching and figuring out what UMA is and how it works. Also, doesn't leaving the betting open while the dispute is active kind of invite insider trading? Are you saying that these guys already know the outcome and that's why they are willing to risk 17 grand to make 300?
babendums
10 months ago
smh bro, joyful is a compound word.. ttps://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
Eridpnc
10 months ago
The bet specified that only "joy" and compound words with joy in it would count.
babendums
10 months ago
50/50, is better than No, id would grudgingly accept that
homosexual
10 months ago
I think the problem here is that there are different standards for what a compound word is. Most dictionaries don't consider it a compound but Merriam-Webster does. I don't think you guys are going to win the Yes on this one, but I think 50-50 would be reasonable
babendums
10 months ago
MW, isn't the only place. Again, all other "sources" are interpretations by omission, you have to be a linguist to interpret it. Also the market was intended to cover both clearly, as the requestor requested joyful, it was simplified to joy and the compound rules referenced for the reason.
homosexual
10 months ago
I think the problem here is that there are different standards for what a compound word is. Most dictionaries don't consider it a compound but Merriam-Webster does. I don't think you guys are going to win the Yes on this one, but I think 50-50 would be reasonable
babendums
10 months ago
yea its clear cut to most people, but the additional context box was incorrectly posted which triggered all this BS
gpsmatty
10 months ago
Doing some research before voting on this, based on: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds this should resolve to Yes
babendums
10 months ago
but its with UMA for vote, we all had to put our evidence on the discord
Morifan
10 months ago
Wait a second are you no retards seriously arguing if joyful counts? SHE LITERALLY says JOY-FUL you can't say it without saying joy first this is so fucking stupid. She is saying the word out loud there should not be an argument. Damn Polymarket really is super rigged.
babendums
10 months ago
i know man, its sad, people referencing some obscure linguistic heady shit to act like she didn't say joy. They are doing backflips to not pay out.
Morifan
10 months ago
Wait a second are you no retards seriously arguing if joyful counts? SHE LITERALLY says JOY-FUL you can't say it without saying joy first this is so fucking stupid. She is saying the word out loud there should not be an argument. Damn Polymarket really is super rigged.
babendums
10 months ago
P2 - Yes Evidence: What I have learned over the past 2 days is that the English language is not extremely clear cut. In the traditional strict linguistic sense, you require two stems or base words, but in the broader definition which is acknowledged by Merriam Webster, Oxford, and Cambridge. Affixes (suffixes and prefixes), are considered compound words also. In addition, Cambridge specifically calls out the “adjective” word class which “joyful” belongs. Are players meant to interpret the rules as linguists or as normal people who use sources like MW to drive their understanding of the english language. If the ruling is made in good faith that betters are no linguists and understand the rules as a laymen, then "joyful" should be considered in scope. At the end of the day, the spirit of the rules were meant to encompass joyful. The requestor of the market has specifically asked for “joyful” and Polymarket simplified to “joy” as compounds of the word covers “joyful”. Harris said Joy-ful audibly, so there is that also. I won’t respam all the sources I have posted but, it is clear to me in the broader definition of compound words, “-ful” words should be considered.
babendums
10 months ago
atleast this is my best theory at the time, due to seeing the same names over and over
xdbrhzdfxcbzdtn
10 months ago
How does this whales and bots thing work? Can anyone explain or point me to some resources? Like some account just purchased 17 grand worth of "no" at 98 cents, why would anybody do that, risk all that money for a potential return of a few hundred bucks?
babendums
10 months ago
Because there are some whales out there that just scalp these disputes and then vote on the UMA as they are token holders so they can swing the final vote. You see the same suspects on all these markets scalping the last 2 or 3%
xdbrhzdfxcbzdtn
10 months ago
How does this whales and bots thing work? Can anyone explain or point me to some resources? Like some account just purchased 17 grand worth of "no" at 98 cents, why would anybody do that, risk all that money for a potential return of a few hundred bucks?
babendums
10 months ago
In this context, specifically, the suffix -ful has the meaning of a completely additional word full, and this would raise the possibility of a compound word. A number of sources were presented which corroborate this reasoning
gary22
10 months ago
Note + Book, Sun + Flower, Moon + Light. All of them can be used separately and still hold meaning
babendums
10 months ago
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
gary22
10 months ago
I am not a yes or no holder for this market, but I did some research and Joyful seems to be not a compound word for joy as "-ful" can't be used on its own. Compound words are "Notebook, Sunflower, Moonlight etc."
babendums
10 months ago
I am a lunatic by the way. I'm a degen who bets on dnc mention markets lmao. Still doesnt mean I'm wrong..
fafafafafafafafafafafafafaffafafafa
10 months ago
you can find sources in this thread posted by people familiar with the linguistics literature. As you know, of course, since you posted in the thread, but you again choose to lie and claim that there are no sources disagreeing with you https://www.reddit.com/r/asklinguistics/comments/1ezrv5m/is_joyful_a_compound_word/
babendums
10 months ago
Redditors are notoriously stable individuals, that never argue right... what a joke. If they were SMEs they would post something that called it out specifically.
fafafafafafafafafafafafafaffafafafa
10 months ago
you can find sources in this thread posted by people familiar with the linguistics literature. As you know, of course, since you posted in the thread, but you again choose to lie and claim that there are no sources disagreeing with you https://www.reddit.com/r/asklinguistics/comments/1ezrv5m/is_joyful_a_compound_word/
babendums
10 months ago
Again resorting to personal attacks instead of sharing evidence. Sure I'm biased, but I'm also right.
fafafafafafafafafafafafafaffafafafa
10 months ago
@badenbums stop with your bad faith weaselry, people have posted plenty of sources supporting the opposite side, you just choose to ignore them then lie about it
babendums
10 months ago
Open and shut. NOs still have no evidence to put up.
HsB34sgg
10 months ago
Joyful, and joyless are varying degrees of the same word, JOY. As per the APPLICABLE Polymarket rules: Compound words will count as long as "joy" is part of the compound word and references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness. Full of joy: "Joyful" is in fact a compound word which references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness. The definition of "joyful" according to Cambridge is "having or causing great happiness". Case closed. It's a YES! 100%
babendums
10 months ago
Harris said "Joyful". This market resolves compound words for joy to Yes. A majority of authoritative sources agree that prefix and suffixes like "-ful" can be used to create compound words. Therefore this market has to resolve to Yes. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
babendums
10 months ago
Its already been disputed
IAmHarold
10 months ago
if you believe the additional context box is incorrect then you must join the UMA discord to speak your mind. Unfortunately nothing you write here will matter as UMA are the people making the final decision. discord.com/invite/UMA
babendums
10 months ago
The context was disputed.. its not accurate
Radix
10 months ago
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT: As per the rules, "Pluralization/possessive of the word will count toward the resolution of this market, however other forms will NOT count." Joyful is another form of "Joy", and is not considered a compound word, thus this market should resolve to "No."
babendums
10 months ago
How so?
ANudeEgg
10 months ago
LOL. You clearly don't understand how this works.
babendums
10 months ago
Where does the money go?
Wisdomtime
10 months ago
what do you mean with P4?
babendums
10 months ago
I mean if UMA always goes with the PM outcome, there is literally zero point for them to exist, which means PM would have zero actual governance.
babendums
10 months ago
Talking to some of the UMA holders, they usually wont overturn unless there is clear evidence, and in this case there is. They alluded to it not being a straightforward No vote.
babendums
10 months ago
Talking to some of the UMA holders, they usually wont overturn unless there is clear evidence, and in this case there is. They alluded to it not being a straightforward No vote.
babendums
10 months ago
I expect the share prices to be closer to 50/50 as we get closer to the vote, momentum does seem to be shifting a bit to the other direction.
babendums
10 months ago
I mean if i was a big no holder, why would i hold out for 3% for this level of risk..
babendums
10 months ago
I expect the share prices to be closer to 50/50 as we get closer to the vote, momentum does seem to be shifting a bit to the other direction.
babendums
10 months ago
I expect the share prices to be closer to 50/50 as we get closer to the vote, momentum does seem to be shifting a bit to the other direction.
babendums
10 months ago
Noone is saying its solved, just that the consensus on the discord is that the Yeses have the obvious winning position, and that it comes down to UMA overturning PM.
ekimika
10 months ago
Like people are acting like linguistics as a field of study is solved. Of course people are gonna debate language it’s been like that forever
babendums
10 months ago
The proposal for the market in the first place was for joyful, PM forced it to be Joy and said the compound rules covered joyful. The guy who proposed is pretty pissed off.
0x7b3e8C2EC161200A1c3422dCDDeE1a4a334088Ba-1724262703730
10 months ago
the thing I don't understand about the "no" resolution is WHAT compound words people would potentially have been betting on if stuff like joyful, joyless, joyous, joyfulness, etc. didn't count. did people think she was going to say joystick? joyride? it's ridiculous. if they didn't want anything other than "joy" specifically, the rules shouldn't have been written the way they were. no reasonable person would find fault with a positive resolution to any of the above joy related words counting towards this.
babendums
10 months ago
zero evidence, just personal attacks as usual from the No side.
MALDEMER
10 months ago
It is not a compound word, you are delusional.
babendums
10 months ago
copium much?
MALDEMER
10 months ago
It is not a compound word, you are delusional.
babendums
10 months ago
It's pretty clear the No's have a weak position, so most of the attacks are personal from their side, or basically leaning on the PM clarification, or a vague "linguistic authority" noone can actually identify.
ekimika
10 months ago
what was the consensus
babendums
10 months ago
oops I misread, on discord is clear its Yes. Few Nos don't have any real evidence.
ekimika
10 months ago
what was the consensus
babendums
10 months ago
There was none on reddit just a discussion about linguistic heuristics.
ekimika
10 months ago
what was the consensus
babendums
10 months ago
Joy being compound is a solved subject on the voting-discussion discord. The only pending question is whether or not UMA will overturn PM's decision
babendums
10 months ago
of course they have stake in it, the guy literally posted he was coming from polymarket.
heywewq
10 months ago
Someone made a reddit thread and the consensus is "no" These are people with no stake in it and is the most fair. I expect posting this might cause people here to spam it so here is the archived version before any manipulation. https://archive.ph/95Fov
babendums
10 months ago
as far as the rules, it is not, but I believe Obama did say hope in his speech. Funny thing is the Nos are using that one as evidence for them, but it supportes the Yeses position more (it resolved to Yes lol)
n/a
10 months ago
Late to this discussion. Just curious how is JOY different than HOPE (which resolved to yes) for Obama? https://polymarket.com/event/what-will-obama-say-during-dnc-speech?tid=1724527475790
babendums
10 months ago
"CRO in-house style uses the Chicago Manual of Style for many of its editorial decisions. When in doubt, look it up and defer to Chicago. Our reference dictionary is Merriam-Webster." https://web.archive.org/web/20220519092526/https://wiki.harvard.edu/confluence/display/HSG/CRO+Style+Guide+Home
heywewq
10 months ago
Someone made a reddit thread and the consensus is "no" These are people with no stake in it and is the most fair. I expect posting this might cause people here to spam it so here is the archived version before any manipulation. https://archive.ph/95Fov
babendums
10 months ago
No sources have been provided against Merriam's definition of compound word, which specifically mentions -ful as a compound element. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide
heywewq
10 months ago
Someone made a reddit thread and the consensus is "no" These are people with no stake in it and is the most fair. I expect posting this might cause people here to spam it so here is the archived version before any manipulation. https://archive.ph/95Fov
babendums
10 months ago
Merriam's definition is endorsed by Harvard's style guide: "Check out Merriam-Webster or the CRO Word List for acceptable usage." https://web.archive.org/web/20220519092522/https://wiki.harvard.edu/confluence/display/HSG/Compound+Words
heywewq
10 months ago
Someone made a reddit thread and the consensus is "no" These are people with no stake in it and is the most fair. I expect posting this might cause people here to spam it so here is the archived version before any manipulation. https://archive.ph/95Fov
babendums
10 months ago
Not a single post has been posted with an authoratative post, only people's interpretations of linguistic frameworks in their own minds. Versus plain black and white on several authoratative sources regarding "-ful" and affixes in the context of compounding words
heywewq
10 months ago
Someone made a reddit thread and the consensus is "no" These are people with no stake in it and is the most fair. I expect posting this might cause people here to spam it so here is the archived version before any manipulation. https://archive.ph/95Fov
babendums
10 months ago
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling -using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and -combining-form-compounds
Drahacik
10 months ago
I certainly would not resolve "helpful" to "help", for example. This should resolved to "No" because it's not possessive or plural.
babendums
10 months ago
Evidence that joyful is not compound please?
Drahacik
10 months ago
I certainly would not resolve "helpful" to "help", for example. This should resolved to "No" because it's not possessive or plural.
babendums
10 months ago
I believe that is correct.
J.D.K
10 months ago
We will have to wait 1 day n 5 hours for outcome?
babendums
10 months ago
This market is now based on the integrity of UMA not on the outcome of the mention. Evidence is clear here, and PM screwed up.
babendums
10 months ago
If UMA has even a shred of integrity they will vote Yes.
babendums
10 months ago
Anyone check in on the evidence/rationale section recently? Still no evidence posted from Nos, other than their own interpretation of obscure linguisitic frameworks deep in random books.
babendums
10 months ago
Like they used the obams hope market as evidence and that one resolved yes.
babendums
10 months ago
Even their own sources sometimes support the Yes position pretty clearly
babendums
10 months ago
Even their own sources sometimes support the Yes position pretty clearly
babendums
10 months ago
Anyone check in on the evidence/rationale section recently? Still no evidence posted from Nos, other than their own interpretation of obscure linguisitic frameworks deep in random books.
babendums
10 months ago
Anyone check in on the evidence/rationale section recently? Still no evidence posted from Nos, other than their own interpretation of obscure linguisitic frameworks deep in random books.
babendums
10 months ago
The only way this market resolves No is if UMA whales manipulate the vote based on their own interests.
babendums
10 months ago
The argument you always have is by omission and not explicit. Or personal attacks because you have no real evidence.
BlackSky123
10 months ago
There is actually no way to get around the fact that Jewish not counting for Jew but Joyful somehow counting for Joy is a completely retarded notion. The rest is all coping, I really hope the yes bagholders buy more. I love seeing retarded scammers flail around and lose hundreds or thousands of dollars to people who have more than two brain cells. It's very hilarious.
babendums
10 months ago
"a word derived from the compound adjective colour-blind by the same rule which derives happiness from happy." Just like "ness", "ful" is not a word on its own, joyful is a compound word under the suffix rule.
babendums
10 months ago
University Grammar of English by Quirk and Greenbaum.
babendums
10 months ago
University Grammar of English by Quirk and Greenbaum.
babendums
10 months ago
https://william-snyder.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2834/2019/11/Snyder-on-Compounds.pdf
babendums
10 months ago
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide
babendums
10 months ago
Section 6.30 in thr chapter on compounding rules. Very clear "ful" words are considered compound.https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2008/pdf/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2008-8.pdf
babendums
10 months ago
Its not an article, its literally their definition for compounding.
n/a
10 months ago
The Merian Webster link is a link to an article. Not an authoritative dictionary. The true meaning of a compound word is a lexeme with one or more stem. A suffix, is not a stem of a Lexeme, it’s a affix morpheme, when you add a suffix to a stem it’s what’s called morphological derivation - this is different to a compound word.
babendums
10 months ago
MW, Grammerly, Cambridge, and Oxford also clearly have langauge around affixes and compound words, and also separately about adjective compound words that dont need a full root stem to consider as compound.
n/a
10 months ago
It’s all of linguistics phd papers and books, versus one article on Merriam Webster. Not an official definition.
babendums
10 months ago
Thats what I'm saying, suprised this isnt more even. Its basically some obscure linguistics books that MAY imply something by omission, vs very explicitly saying they are compound in MW, Cambridge, and Oxford dictionaries.
n/a
10 months ago
Too risky to hold either side, UMA can rule either way depending on the effort they put into researching. If you think UMA is stupid, yes is free money.
babendums
10 months ago
MW, Oxford, and Cambridge all disagree..
n/a
10 months ago
The Merian Webster link is a link to an article. Not an authoritative dictionary. The true meaning of a compound word is a lexeme with one or more stem. A suffix, is not a stem of a Lexeme, it’s a affix morpheme, when you add a suffix to a stem it’s what’s called morphological derivation - this is different to a compound word.
babendums
10 months ago
How is this market not atleast 5050? After UMA vote ends, one side will get fully rekt. And there is an insanely strong position for Yeses.
babendums
10 months ago
https://discord.com/invite/uma
JP5
10 months ago
Not going to pretend I'm not biased here, but I am genuinely unclear why the Joy market is so low right now. I get that Merriam-Webster is not the only possible authority on compound words, but is there any evidence specifically point it *not* being a compound word? Because in the absence of that evidence, the Merriam-Webster link does seem fairly clear on this.
babendums
10 months ago
people scared of UMA vote, i looked at the docos posted by both sides, NOs have a weak argument. That being said I have no clue how the UMA vote works or if whales have their fingers in the pie
JP5
10 months ago
Not going to pretend I'm not biased here, but I am genuinely unclear why the Joy market is so low right now. I get that Merriam-Webster is not the only possible authority on compound words, but is there any evidence specifically point it *not* being a compound word? Because in the absence of that evidence, the Merriam-Webster link does seem fairly clear on this.
babendums
10 months ago
Kamala said “joyful” during her speech. Compound words resolve to YES. Authoritative source clearly says “-ful” words like joyful are compound words. Merriam Webster is one of the most authoritative sources on the English language. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
babendums
10 months ago
Nos will be extremely butthurt when this flips after the UMA vote is done. Then they will all be crying it was rigged.
babendums
10 months ago
Kamala said “joyful” during her speech. Compound words resolve to YES. Authoritative source clearly says “-ful” words like joyful are compound words. Merriam Webster is one of the most authoritative sources on the English language. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
babendums
10 months ago
Make a case on the discord, I have the done the same. We clearly have a valid dispute here. The "Nos" have not articulated any valid counter argument to the blatantly obvious evidence.
RaIsTheSunGod
10 months ago
Hello guys, It's me the guy who requested Joyful and the guy who paid for the dispute. Once again Polymarket added JOY after my request for Joyful. Nobody requested Joy and the only reason to add Joy is to simplify for compound words like joyful. If Joyful is not a compound word of Joy than Joy should have never been added by polymarket as otherwise that would have been purposefully deceitful because nobody requested the word Joy the word that was requested was Joyful as I am the one requesting it. Joy was added by Polymarket because they knew it was the simple version of the compound word joyful. Otherwise Polymarket purposefully tried to trap people which I do not believe they would do,
babendums
10 months ago
https://discord.com/channels/718590743446290492/1276536233702588446
RaIsTheSunGod
10 months ago
I'll say it again. The act of Polymarket adding Joy is an admission that it is a compound word of Joyful as NOBODY requested Joy to be added. Joyful was requested and they added Joy because it was simple and covered compound words like JOYFUL. Polymarket themselves created this issue by defacto making Joy a root of Joyful when they added Joy from the request of adding joyful and saying it covered compound joy words
babendums
10 months ago
Then its an easy resolution for Yes. Have you posted this evidence to the UMA discord?
RaIsTheSunGod
10 months ago
I'll say it again. The act of Polymarket adding Joy is an admission that it is a compound word of Joyful as NOBODY requested Joy to be added. Joyful was requested and they added Joy because it was simple and covered compound words like JOYFUL. Polymarket themselves created this issue by defacto making Joy a root of Joyful when they added Joy from the request of adding joyful and saying it covered compound joy words
babendums
10 months ago
which means its all on UMA to do the right thing.
babendums
10 months ago
Based on this I think we have to wait for the period to be up to get all the votes in: In the event of a dispute, a price request is submitted to the DVM which proposes a vote to UMA tokenholders to report the price of the asset at a specific timestamp. The vote will conclude after a 48-96 hour voting period. UMA tokenholders will reference the price identifier's UMIP to determine how to arrive at a vote result via off-chain price feeds and methodologies. The DVM will aggregate votes from UMA tokenholders to determine the final price of the asset for a given timestamp.
babendums
10 months ago
Based on this I think we have to wait for the period to be up to get all the votes in: In the event of a dispute, a price request is submitted to the DVM which proposes a vote to UMA tokenholders to report the price of the asset at a specific timestamp. The vote will conclude after a 48-96 hour voting period. UMA tokenholders will reference the price identifier's UMIP to determine how to arrive at a vote result via off-chain price feeds and methodologies. The DVM will aggregate votes from UMA tokenholders to determine the final price of the asset for a given timestamp.
RaIsTheSunGod
10 months ago
Hello guys, It's me the guy who requested Joyful and the guy who paid for the dispute. Once again Polymarket added JOY after my request for Joyful. Nobody requested Joy and the only reason to add Joy is to simplify for compound words like joyful. If Joyful is not a compound word of Joy than Joy should have never been added by polymarket as otherwise that would have been purposefully deceitful because nobody requested the word Joy the word that was requested was Joyful as I am the one requesting it. Joy was added by Polymarket because they knew it was the simple version of the compound word joyful. Otherwise Polymarket purposefully tried to trap people which I do not believe they would do,
babendums
10 months ago
joi boi momentum picking up, check out that 1hr trend line
boredagain
10 months ago
where my joi bois at
babendums
10 months ago
btw, someone posted on reddit trying to get clarity. I don't understand how there is any question here. The evidence is overwhelming. The reddit post may be a UMA holder I am guessing. https://www.reddit.com/r/asklinguistics/comments/1ezrv5m/is_joyful_a_compound_word/
RaIsTheSunGod
10 months ago
Hello guys, It's me the guy who requested Joyful and the guy who paid for the dispute. Once again Polymarket added JOY after my request for Joyful. Nobody requested Joy and the only reason to add Joy is to simplify for compound words like joyful. If Joyful is not a compound word of Joy than Joy should have never been added by polymarket as otherwise that would have been purposefully deceitful because nobody requested the word Joy the word that was requested was Joyful as I am the one requesting it. Joy was added by Polymarket because they knew it was the simple version of the compound word joyful. Otherwise Polymarket purposefully tried to trap people which I do not believe they would do,
babendums
10 months ago
Do you know how the final review works? do we have to wait for the full timer to end? I believe they will do the right thing here. The vote goes to UMA holders if I understand correctly.
RaIsTheSunGod
10 months ago
Hello guys, It's me the guy who requested Joyful and the guy who paid for the dispute. Once again Polymarket added JOY after my request for Joyful. Nobody requested Joy and the only reason to add Joy is to simplify for compound words like joyful. If Joyful is not a compound word of Joy than Joy should have never been added by polymarket as otherwise that would have been purposefully deceitful because nobody requested the word Joy the word that was requested was Joyful as I am the one requesting it. Joy was added by Polymarket because they knew it was the simple version of the compound word joyful. Otherwise Polymarket purposefully tried to trap people which I do not believe they would do,
babendums
10 months ago
nos are dumping.. this is the easier money you can make by voting Yes. I've never been so sure I was right about something in my life lol.
babendums
10 months ago
https://cute-language-learning.blogspot.com/2013/01/making-compund-words-with-suffixes.html?m=1
babendums
10 months ago
Just for reference, here is the evidence for my position: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
babendums
10 months ago
According to who?
babendums
10 months ago
Yes she said "Joyful" which is a compound word
babendums
10 months ago
Just for reference, here is the evidence for my position: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
TimeQuestion
10 months ago
scam squad stand back, but stand ready
babendums
10 months ago
What does that mean? Respectfully what is the evidence for the No position?
TimeQuestion
10 months ago
scam squad stand back, but stand ready
babendums
10 months ago
I have hope that UMA will do the right thing, only reason I added more to my position. I do see the trend flipping, last chance for Nos to get out before momentum changes.
Sit
10 months ago
Absolute shame that this still hasn't been settled on yes
babendums
10 months ago
seriously zero evidence to counter the yes position. The only evidence they have brought forward is something about "jew" and "jewish", even if that didn't resolve the way it should have, they should make it right on this market and all future markets going forward. The rules are clear, PM will lose a lot of credability if they vote No IMO
degenlife
10 months ago
i'm confused, why joyful isn't considered a compound word? also the rules are spelled exactly like the other obama play "Hope" resolved with yes. Why they rigging this again?
babendums
10 months ago
Compound words resolve to Yes. Authoritative source clearly says “-ful” words like joyful are compound words. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/spelling-using-compound-words-guide/prefixed-suffixed-and-combining-form-compounds
Topgeneral
10 months ago
No idea how to do that/get to the discord
babendums
10 months ago
https://discord.com/channels/718590743446290492/964000735073284127 Go here, verify yourself, then send a message to that channel voting "P2" with as much evidence as you can.
Topgeneral
10 months ago
No idea how to do that/get to the discord
babendums
10 months ago
You should also put in an evidence post on discord for the vote.
Topgeneral
10 months ago
If i wasnt clear i agree with you. I think this is a great example.
babendums
10 months ago
She said "joyful". Joyful is a compound word. These are facts. Here is the rules of the market: Compound words will count as long as "joy" is part of the compound word and references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness.
babendums
10 months ago
to be fair, i think Obama actually said "hope" but the point is the compound rules are clear about hope and compound derivations. Same applies here.
Topgeneral
10 months ago
This is pretty damning tbh. Same exact suffix, same compound rules as the obama post.
babendums
10 months ago
This is the exerpt from the rules from that market: Compound words will count as long as "hope" is part of the compound word and references the meaning which refers to a feeling of expectation and desire for a specific outcome.
Topgeneral
10 months ago
This is pretty damning tbh. Same exact suffix, same compound rules as the obama post.
babendums
10 months ago
Yes she said "Joyful" which is a compound word
J.D.K
10 months ago
Joy? Did she say anything with Joy? I haven't watched the speech to find out
babendums
10 months ago
Obama speech "hopeful" resolved to yes for "hope", just this week. Some guy in discord voting No used this link as evidence. I'm pretty sure evidence supports our position.. https://polymarket.com/event/what-will-obama-say-during-dnc-speech?tid=1724467947322
babendums
10 months ago
I figured it out, I added my evidences.
HsB34sgg
10 months ago
The "Additional context" clarification is factually incorrect, and refers to the incorrect section of the rules pertaining to compound words, instead it points to "Pluralization/possessive", which is deceptive. "Joyous" is another form of "Joy". The "Additional context" is a corrupt addendum to the original rules. As per the original and APPLICABLE Polymarket rules: "Compound words will count as long as "joy" is part of the compound word and references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness." Full of joy: "Joyful" is in fact a compound word (Merriam-Webster, Harvard, U.S. Government and Canadian Government) which references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness. No one has yet to provide an authoritative source to the contrary. The Cambridge definition of "joyful" is "having or causing great happiness"
babendums
10 months ago
Looking at all the discord evidences, there is ZERO evidence from authoratative sources which say "ful" words are NOT compound. This market must resolve Yes.
anddy
10 months ago
The "Additional context" clarification is factually incorrect, and refers to the incorrect section of the rules pertaining to compound words, instead it points to "Pluralization/possessive", which is deceptive. "Joyous" is another form of "Joy". The "Additional context" is a corrupt addendum to the original rules. As per the original and APPLICABLE Polymarket rules: "Compound words will count as long as "joy" is part of the compound word and references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness." Full of joy: "Joyful" is in fact a compound word (Merriam-Webster, Harvard, U.S. Government and Canadian Government) which references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness. No one has yet to provide an authoritative source to the contrary. The Cambridge definition of "joyful" is "having or causing great happiness"
babendums
10 months ago
Then you know i bought the same amount in dollars before the speech. Think before you post fool.
heywewq
10 months ago
dude, why would you lie about something so obvious to factcheck. Transactions are time-stamped on the blockchain. You bought 11k in the past 4 hours fool
babendums
10 months ago
Who added that bs anyways?
HsB34sgg
10 months ago
The "Additional context" clarification is factually incorrect, and refers to the incorrect section of the rules pertaining to compound words, instead it points to "Pluralization/possessive", which is deceptive. "Joyous" is another form of "Joy". The "Additional context" is a corrupt addendum to the original rules. As per the original and APPLICABLE Polymarket rules: "Compound words will count as long as "joy" is part of the compound word and references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness." Full of joy: "Joyful" is in fact a compound word (Merriam-Webster, Harvard, U.S. Government and Canadian Government) which references the meaning which refers to a feeling of great pleasure and happiness. No one has yet to provide an authoritative source to the contrary. The Cambridge definition of "joyful" is "having or causing great happiness"
babendums
10 months ago
Nah, i bought most of my shares before the speech.
heywewq
10 months ago
You bought 11k shares after the resolution was disputed... you know what you are getting yourself into... Cleary if there is dispute, the answer is unclear.
babendums
10 months ago
people are going to start leaving polymarket if they don't make the call based on authorative sources. I certainly am, it throws all future resolutions in to question.
babendums
10 months ago
MW: Compounds—new, permanent, and temporary—are formed by adding word elements to existing words or by combining word elements. In English, there are three basic word elements: the prefix (such as anti-, non-, pre-, post-, re-, super-), the suffix (as -er, -ism, -ist, -less, -ful, -ness), and the combining form (mini-, macro-, pseudo-, -graphy, -logy). Prefixes and suffixes are usually attached to existing words; combining forms are usually combined to form new words (photomicrograph).
babendums
10 months ago
they still need to post the sources from oxford and MW more clearly, they are pointing to sources that use these sources but MW clearly says the thing on affixes.. UMA holder needs to make this arguement
HsB34sgg
10 months ago
Merriam-Webster, Harvard, U.S. Government and Canadian Government all agree with the widely known fact that "joyful" is a compound word. The "Additional context" section is corrupt. It is factually false, and points to the wrong section in the original rules.
babendums
10 months ago
the vote comments are starting to go in the right direction, the "Nos" all have zero evidence other than previous market resolutions, and the yeses have tons of evidence. I mean how do you argue with MW..
babendums
10 months ago
The english language is tricky, but this is clear cut. pre fixes and suffixes added to the word are compound words
babendums
10 months ago
all the "nos" are dead silent because there is literally no evidence that joyful is not a compound word.
babendums
10 months ago
where is the discord invite link?
HsB34sgg
10 months ago
Get the Discord app, log in, follow the verification process and find the applicable thread. Find the 2nd red hyperlink here, https://docs.uma.xyz/protocol-overview/dvm-2.0-faq
babendums
10 months ago
I have to be a token holder though right?
HsB34sgg
10 months ago
Find the 2nd red hyperlink here, https://docs.uma.xyz/protocol-overview/dvm-2.0-faq
babendums
10 months ago
ChatGPT: The broader view of compound words includes any word formed by combining elements to create a new meaning, not just those formed by combining two standalone words. In this broader context, compound words can also include: Words formed by combining a base word with prefixes and suffixes: For example, “wonderful” (wonder + -ful) or “joyful” (joy + -ful). Here, the base word and suffix together create a new meaning. Words formed by combining parts of words that might not be standalone words themselves: For instance, “fearful” (fear + -ful) or “respectful” (respect + -ful). In this view, a compound word doesn’t have to be a straightforward combination of two independent words (like "sun" and "flower" in "sunflower") but can also involve the addition of affixes (prefixes or suffixes) to existing words to form new meanings.
babendums
10 months ago
who votes, can anyone vote?
MineGuyBonds
10 months ago
It's already been disputed twice. It's going to a vote now
babendums
10 months ago
all the "Nos" are just resorting to personal and political attacks instead of providing hard evidence that Joyful is or isn't a compound word. The authorative sources like Oxford and MW both agree on this.
babendums
10 months ago
Oxford Learner’s Dictionaries: This source explains that compound words can be formed by combining two or more words, and it also mentions that prefixes and suffixes can be used to create compound words. Cambridge Dictionary: This source provides examples of compound words and explains that they can be formed by combining words with prefixes or suffixes. Grammarly Blog: This blog post discusses different types of compound words, including those formed with prefixes and suffixes.
babendums
10 months ago
https://sl.bing.net/krLMKN2ROYC
babendums
10 months ago
GPT-4 considers joyful a compound word.
babendums
10 months ago
https://sl.bing.net/hZyRDauiIKa
babendums
10 months ago
https://sl.bing.net/hZyRDauiIKa
babendums
10 months ago
how do i dispute this, this is BS, joyful is a compound word, bing copilot, Merrium Webster, Brainly all showing it is a compound word. I can't speak to previous markets and how they resolved, only this one and the proof from authorative sources.
babendums
10 months ago
Based on the broader definition from Merriam-Webster, where compound words can be formed by combining prefixes or suffixes with words, all the words in the list could be considered compound words. This includes: Wonderful Mindful Doubtful Fearful Joyful Respectful Tearful Wishful Fateful Graceful Each of these words combines a noun with the suffix “-ful,” which aligns with the broader definition of compound words.
babendums
10 months ago
they may also be formed by prefixes or suffixes, "ful" is a suffix, joyful is a compound word.
babendums
10 months ago
its clearly a compound word, this is from merrium webster: "A compound is a word or word group that consists of two or more parts that work together as a unit to express a specific concept. Examples are double-check, cost-effective, around-the-clock, hand-to-hand, forward-thinking, eyeliner, and iced tea. They might also be formed from prefixes or suffixes, as in ex-president, supermicro, presorted, shirtless, or unforgivable."
babendums
10 months ago
its clearly a compound word, this is from merrium webster: "A compound is a word or word group that consists of two or more parts that work together as a unit to express a specific concept. Examples are double-check, cost-effective, around-the-clock, hand-to-hand, forward-thinking, eyeliner, and iced tea. They might also be formed from prefixes or suffixes, as in ex-president, supermicro, presorted, shirtless, or unforgivable."
babendums
10 months ago
https://brainly.in/question/20940325#:~:text=Joyful%20is%20a%206%20letter,which%20are%20joy%2C%20and%20ful.
heywewq
10 months ago
FACT: "Joyful" is not a compound word! Please read this: https://ecampusontario.pressbooks.pub/greeklatinroots/chapter/%C2%A791-what-is-a-compound-word/#:~:text=In%20correct%20linguistic%20use%2C%20the,a%20compound%20have%20that%20capacity Someone with a large holding for "Yes" is desperately trying to find a source and is manipulating the meaning from some random blog post from Merriam Webster.
babendums
10 months ago
it is a compound word, first listing on google: https://brainly.in/question/20940325#:~:text=Joyful%20is%20a%206%20letter,which%20are%20joy%2C%20and%20ful.
babendums
10 months ago
no, the law was just for funding tampons for bathrooms, the law wasn't speciying which bathroom, republicans just jumped on that opportunity to say boys bathrooms
KingofRingx3
10 months ago
Isn't Walz the guy that put tampons on boys bathrooms?
babendums
10 months ago
Theres been atleast 50-70 already. I exited by No position. https://blockclubchicago.org/2024/08/21/72-people-arrested-during-protest-outside-israeli-consulate/
babendums
10 months ago
does it count if its at the israeli consulate?
SkillzThatKillz
10 months ago
I agree it just needs to be in Chicago, not at the DNC. The hard part is matching arrest records to people saying that they were protesting the DNC, as opposed to protesting Israel.