#108
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551
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193
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abdendriel
9 months ago
Guardian article citing Can Xue as favourite…for 2023 prize and she didn’t win. https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/04/chinese-author-can-xue-favourite-win-2023-nobel-prize-for-literature
abdendriel
9 months ago
Adam Back now looking over his shoulder every now and then for everyone who lost money on him
abdendriel
9 months ago
Peter Todd admitted it himself by saying Hoback was “grasping at straws”. Denies being Satoshi but admits Hoback’s conclusion.
abdendriel
9 months ago
If Musk was in the doc, HBO would be selling it on those preview clips like crazy
abdendriel
9 months ago
Why ppl buy No Back. Last part of the interview https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
9 months ago
I don’t think Forbes would gamble its reputation on being verifiably wrong. Only we PM freaks do that
abdendriel
9 months ago
Source?
yuyang
9 months ago
This morning, HBO leaked a video, and at the end of the movie, it reads: Memory of 'Dave Kleiman' - Forever Satoshi Nakamoto. Dave Kleiman is the final Satoshi Nakamoto.
abdendriel
9 months ago
After Adam helped Cullen so much with the doc, imagine Cullen concludes it by accusing Adam of falsifying documents submitted to a court, accusing him of perjury. I don’t think that’s how this goes down.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Oh shit check out the cast on IMDB. Only a few ppl… and Peter Todd at the end. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt33600145/fullcredits/cast?ref_=m_ttfc_2
abdendriel
9 months ago
Director said the confronted him. So he’s not dead
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ idk wtf im doing i put all my life savings in yolo hopefully my parents dont kick me out” -2nd largest Adam Back holder. Check out Activity, almost exclusively Adam Back. Scroll down to see the comment
abdendriel
9 months ago
And also there are large buy spikes in Yes Adam Back, as if certain buyers were new to this but came here to throw money at it
abdendriel
9 months ago
Tried looking into Adam Back volatility. Look at the second largest holder for Yes. Account created recently almost just to buy Yes Adam Back consistently. Also their comments are like “yolo haha”. https://polymarket.com/profile/0x076425d6110b25e6d1c17b14cfefa84b29918c45
abdendriel
9 months ago
Check out Adam Back’s twitter @adam3us. Total fanboy
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yea I feel like Adam Back is using the show to get publicity for his company
makszed
9 months ago
People are funny. They assume if someone appears in a trailer, they're the creators, but that's not how trailers work. You don't know the real truth—Len is definitely winning.
abdendriel
9 months ago
And Adam back was super cooperative with them
Donkov
9 months ago
In the interview they say they confront the prime suspect. Cant confront dead men - Sassman and Finney https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/07/business/video/bitcoin-creator-identity-satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-documentary-digvid
abdendriel
9 months ago
Why the big Elon bet, Car?
Car
9 months ago
Wait, in the trailer they are talking about the government alot, so maybe they are going to conclude that Satoshi = the US government. That would also make sense because they said it would shock the US elections
abdendriel
9 months ago
Cullen said he’s the first person they talked to to try to lead them to Satoshi. Then the result is unexpected
Fred19999
9 months ago
Breaking: it's been revealed that Adam Back is in the documentary
abdendriel
9 months ago
Cullen says they talked to the usual suspects and Adam Back was a starting point that led them to a deeper mystery. The result is controversial and May shock the election. https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
9 months ago
This is totally how Satoshi writes: https://x.com/adam3us/status/1798054843623628963?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Photoshoots with a wizard’s robe and repping some other crypto companies by wearing their hoodie on the HBO doc.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Satoshi’s twitter handle revealed: @adam3us. Mysteriously stepped away with 1m BTC but he’s now pumping “uptober”, pissed it’s not $100k
abdendriel
9 months ago
Satoshi’s twitter handle revealed: @adam3us. Mysteriously stepped away with 1m BTC but he’s now pumping “uptober”, pissed it’s not $100k
abdendriel
9 months ago
From the author of the bitcoin white paper who implemented his vision and moved on to other things, Adam Back: https://x.com/adam3us/status/1842474436970020870?s=46
ensemble0112358
9 months ago
You are a moron and don't know what you just copy-pasted.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Satoshi handed everything over to move on and remain anonymous (or die). Adam back is going around acting like a total BTC fanboy. Check out his twitter
GrapeFlavoredDrinkMix
9 months ago
Seems like Adam is the focal point of the documentary, I think he repeatedly denies being Satoshi as a humility thing, but it looks like HBO is going to strongly insinuate he grandfathered the concept.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Backstreets Back, but Satoshi isn’t Back. Adam Back’s tweet: “ in a market sense which is what matters, it's just not here. no one wants to be short, and you can see that from short duration option chains, high long funding rates, and domination of basis traders vs real shorts.” Check out Adam’s twitter, it’s not him
abdendriel
9 months ago
Interview with Cullen Hoback https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
9 months ago
Adam Back denied being Satoshi. Cullen said in an interview that they started with Back and this lead to a much grander mystery. The name is someone controversial that is unexpected
abdendriel
9 months ago
Director said Adam led them to further evidence and a controversial name
GrapeFlavoredDrinkMix
9 months ago
Seems like Adam is the focal point of the documentary, I think he repeatedly denies being Satoshi as a humility thing, but it looks like HBO is going to strongly insinuate he grandfathered the concept.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Agreed. Satoshi wouldn’t be the CEO of some blockchain company
Bepper
9 months ago
If Adam was Satoshi he would have just claimed bitcoin. He already made Hashcash. Bitcoin would have just been a new version. Satoshi communicated with via email with Wei Dai first. It's pretty obvious SN (NS) was looking for code examples which lead him to Hashcash. If you're a programmer you understand this process. In the bitcoin talks forums in 2013 Adam made suggestions about how he would have done things differently. Adam bragged heavily in the forums that bitcoin got the hash idea from him. This is not someone who was trying to hide the connection. Adam is not Satoshi. Had he been Satoshi he would have never hid his identity. There is only one person who qualifies and has the type of personality who would hide his identity, someone who loves pseudonyms.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Funding secured” was not a joke
abdendriel
9 months ago
Satoshi slip-ups reveal clues. Van Nuys IP address (near SpaceX) exposed. Funding secured tweet
addicts
9 months ago
Honestly, it could be anyone else BESIDES Hal
abdendriel
9 months ago
Cullen Hoback said Adam was his first point of contact. The conversation led him deeper into a mystery that resulted in an unexpected and controversial name.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Some emails between Adam and Satoshi: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/bitcoin-adam-backs-complete-emails-satoshi-nakamoto
abdendriel
9 months ago
Deep respect to Satoshi for making sure Adam’s hashcash papers had proper citations so he got credit
abdendriel
9 months ago
Some emails between Adam and Satoshi: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/bitcoin-adam-backs-complete-emails-satoshi-nakamoto
abdendriel
9 months ago
Some emails between Adam and Satoshi: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/bitcoin-adam-backs-complete-emails-satoshi-nakamoto
abdendriel
9 months ago
Adam back as an entry point into a bigger mystery that the director says the result is unexpected, controversial and will get debated.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ I put that on a shelf for a while and said, all right, if I can get prolonged access to one of them as an entry point, that might unlock the larger story. That entry point was Adam Back[…]so it became a key entry point to unlocking the bigger mystery.” -director. See interview: https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ I put that on a shelf for a while and said, all right, if I can get prolonged access to one of them as an entry point, that might unlock the larger story. That entry point was Adam Back[…]so it became a key entry point to unlocking the bigger mystery.” -director. See interview: https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
9 months ago
Helped the director so much to unravel the mystery
abdendriel
9 months ago
Adam back was the only one who could’ve
abdendriel
9 months ago
Adam back was the only one who could’ve
abdendriel
9 months ago
Hal categorically denied it and his son showed conversations between Hal and Satoshi
abdendriel
9 months ago
Watch till the end. He’s Back
Tentaclecracy
9 months ago
This link points me to a Terminator II video
abdendriel
9 months ago
They got footage of Satoshi admitting he’s Adam Back https://youtu.be/44gD94kl5CU?si=inXq0ZLmJGWthWSr
abdendriel
9 months ago
Why do you think it’s Adam Back?
goingsocial
9 months ago
Idk who came in and decided this should be a prediction market. Please go back to being an opinion poll
abdendriel
9 months ago
Can someone explain why it’s Adam Back?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Imagine if the documentary isn’t finished and they used the polymarket odds to identify the name
abdendriel
9 months ago
All u need for a military offensive are here: very broad definition which includes artillery fire. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_(military)#:~:text=An%20offensive%20is%20a%20military,%2C%20operational%2C%20or%20tactical%20goal.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Military offensive” are the rules, not in invasion. IDF announced Northern Arrows operation started on 30 Sep
abdendriel
9 months ago
Polymarket deleted the tweet about him buying this https://x.com/polymarket/status/1838614497080062230?s=46
TooDumbToWin
9 months ago
But JustKen just bought 37k No
abdendriel
9 months ago
What we’re observing is drip buying Y / selling N. Both Y buyers and N sellers are trying to execute optimally with minimum price slippage.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“The Ayr’s have it” -50 Pence
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
Results speak for themselves. https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/israel-ground-invasion-might-cause-lebanon-to-completely-collapse-13822174.html
abdendriel
9 months ago
And the comment for pence
Car
9 months ago
Chad is the only person responsible for this Y price lol
abdendriel
9 months ago
Unless Car changes his opinion, which he has done in the past to his credit.
aldynspeedruns
9 months ago
this is a win-win scenario. Either I win, or car loses. No matter what I win.
abdendriel
9 months ago
40% votes revealed. Yes increased by a few percent. No percentage halved
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes votes increased after more votes revealed
abdendriel
9 months ago
Good luck!
Dr.ChristmasJones
9 months ago
Just leaving this comment in a sea of YES holders
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s an offensive if it achieves “some larger strategic or tactical goal”. Arguably what the larger strategy was in killing OBL. But in this case, the artillery shelling (done by ground troops) are all part of Northern Arrows
Jooba
9 months ago
Isolated raids are not intended to establish control over part of lebanon. The IDF already announced these raids have been going on for months. Was killing Osama a USA invasion of Pakistan?
abdendriel
9 months ago
You can’t disconnect all the activities in the Northern Arrows offensive when the IDF state they’re all part of the Northern Areows offensive
Jooba
9 months ago
@isabellebeaumont you are betting wayyyyy too much if you think Special Ops IDF use m16s lulz
abdendriel
9 months ago
They attacked, bro.
Jooba
9 months ago
@isabellebeaumont you are betting wayyyyy too much if you think Special Ops IDF use m16s lulz
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ An offensive is a military operation that seeks through an aggressive projection of armed forces to occupy or recapture territory, gain an objective or achieve some larger strategic, operational, or tactical goal. Another term for an offensive often used by the media is "invasion", or the more general "attack"”.
Jooba
9 months ago
@isabellebeaumont you are betting wayyyyy too much if you think Special Ops IDF use m16s lulz
abdendriel
9 months ago
I’m sorry bro. From 1 yes buyer to another previous yes buyer
05brownboy
9 months ago
bro pulled up info from 4 days ago and thought he had something 💀
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Invasion” is not in the rules. So many people got screwed before by reading the title and not the rules.
Jooba
9 months ago
limited localized= not an invasion yet
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF saved us by announcing the commencement of their offensive on twitter with a timestamp https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Be careful not to be fooled by the title. The rules say “military offensive”.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The rules say “military offensive”. IDF announced they already began
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
Israel did want to control some land of Lebanon on Sep 30th. But Israel failed because Lebanon fought back.
abdendriel
9 months ago
November market unanimously voted it was an invasion already
Shayku
9 months ago
I'd be curious to hear the No case here. The yes case writes itself. I guess the No case wants to isolate the raids from the invasion? Seems like a heavy lift.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Unanimous Y or the November market. Y price still cheaper than the US election (which is an actual coin flip). Rare opportunity
abdendriel
9 months ago
For those entering Y and exiting N I mean
abdendriel
9 months ago
Now it’s all about best execution
abdendriel
9 months ago
Now it’s all about best execution
abdendriel
9 months ago
Don’t forget the resolution source: A or B or Israel or C. IDF announced it started “a few hours ago” on 30 Sep https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Dark poetry: this market resolves almost right on Oct 7
abdendriel
9 months ago
They’re reasonable people. The acted on the info available earlier. They’ll make a new reasonable decision with new info now
Darkpsico
9 months ago
Capitulation yet ?
abdendriel
9 months ago
No holders still have a chance to sell and double money on the yes
abdendriel
9 months ago
He’ll probably keep it in polymarket
sharky🦈🦈🦈
9 months ago
Chads gonna have multiple houses after this
abdendriel
9 months ago
Happy Rosh Hashanah
abdendriel
9 months ago
We all knew this moment would happen.
abdendriel
9 months ago
We all knew this moment would happen.
abdendriel
9 months ago
What’s the remaining point of uncertainty?
HaterzLoserz
9 months ago
Reason is telling me to stay out, emotions are telling me to buy yes for the lulz, better judgement has prevailed for now, but this may change at any moment. Dont get too excited though, and dont risk what you cant afford to lose (chad)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Actually half hoping some Yes holders will take profit early so I can get in
abdendriel
9 months ago
Bought more Yes before other ppl notice
abdendriel
9 months ago
No doubt anymore tho, can only complain that UMA is controlled by whales
Donkov
9 months ago
Will NO commence a copefenssive intended to establish control over this market?
abdendriel
9 months ago
No more doubts about intention!!
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF announced their offensive started “a few hours ago” in a tweet on 30 Sep https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF announced the offensive started a few hours ago on 30 Sep.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The operation will occupy their homes. They’re welcome to return once the operation is done
abdendriel
9 months ago
Netanyahu said it to the people of Lebanon: “ Please, get out of harm's way now. Once our operation is finished, you can come back safely to your homes.” https://x.com/israelipm/status/1838249143891861626?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Netanyahu said it to the people of Lebanon: “ Please, get out of harm's way now. Once our operation is finished, you can come back safely to your homes.” https://x.com/israelipm/status/1838249143891861626?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
There’s new evidence. The establishment of control is happening over recent days.
hp-loveshack
9 months ago
this market's lost its damn marbles. in the past 48hr, uma told you there was insufficient evidence for 'yes', and even gave more time to accrue evidence. now, there's no new evidence that either discredits the case for 'no' or further advances the case for 'yes'. and yet the market's reverted to 50/50? wild stuff.
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF footage of the houses and tunnels they established control over https://x.com/idf/status/1841886439732134055?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF established control of house. Hezbollah can’t enter this house anymore to grab their munitions back. https://x.com/idf/status/1842127761944809559?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
They’re in control of this home. https://x.com/idf/status/1842127761944809559?s=46
denizz
9 months ago
Israel still hasn’t controlled any territory, per institute for the study of war. No consensus that they are trying to do so, which would be contra their stated intentions.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes there’s a reason they chose Too Early and then some of them switched to Yes. None switched to No
BibiNetanyahu
9 months ago
(Just FYI this is extremely, extremely likely to go Yes, barring explosive new information, and you should not trade based off people in the comments trying to pump their bags)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Moshe Zalman Feiglin (Hebrew: מֹשֶׁה זַלְמָן פֶייגְּלִין; born 31 July 1962) is a right libertarian-leaning[1][2][3] Israeli politician and activist, and the leader of libertarian Zionist party Zehut.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Moshe Feiglin on the governments plan https://x.com/moshefeiglin/status/1838830185023480060?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Moshe Feiglin on the governments plan https://x.com/moshefeiglin/status/1838830185023480060?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yair Golan (Hebrew: יאיר גולן; born 14 May 1962) is an Israeli politician and leader of the Democrats party and a senior military officer.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Google translate: “ In any case, a ground move must be prepared for immediate action that will allow control of the Lebanese ridges that rule into our territory.”
abdendriel
9 months ago
Google translate: “ In any case, a ground move must be prepared for immediate action that will allow control of the Lebanese ridges that rule into our territory.”
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yair Golan: “ בכל מקרה יש להכין לפעולה מיידית מהלך קרקעי שיאפשר שליטה ברכסים הלבנונים השולטים לתוך שטחנו.” https://x.com/YairGolan1/status/1839256229157212285
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yair Golan: “ בכל מקרה יש להכין לפעולה מיידית מהלך קרקעי שיאפשר שליטה ברכסים הלבנונים השולטים לתוך שטחנו.” https://x.com/YairGolan1/status/1839256229157212285
abdendriel
9 months ago
Rosh Hashanah ends after Tishrei 2 (nightfall of Oct 4). IDF will be “let’s move out” and start establishing control over the bombsites A and B
abdendriel
9 months ago
This is the link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_(military)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Military offensive can consist of only 10 ppl. But in this case there are 100 tanks and tens of IDF casualties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon
abdendriel
9 months ago
Military offensive can consist of only 10 ppl. But in this case there are 100 tanks and tens of IDF casualties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
The "Israeli forces enters Lebanon in September?" RESOLVED YES with near UNNANIMOUS votes. The proof is overwhelming!!! https://polymarket.com/event/israeli-forces-enters-lebanon-in-september
abdendriel
9 months ago
In the last vote, some of the Too Early voters voted for Yes. No was unchanged.
Scoobs
9 months ago
What's the argument for "Too early" anymore? " if Israel commences a military offensive intended to establish control over any portion of Lebanon" - there is plent of proof that forces moved in on September 30. And now there is plenty of proof that that action has escalated and Israel is moving deeper into Lebanon. Can someone enlighten me?
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s more like the intentions of the offensive are being revealed. When you travel somewhere, your intentions of going there are observed by the activities you do after arriving.
Mr. House
9 months ago
Sorry to all people but this market is looking rig to me, what a coincidence that in the middle of the night a butch of orders start to apper.
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s probably because of the proposals, disputes, votes that have been happening that causes volatility.
Mr. House
9 months ago
Sorry to all people but this market is looking rig to me, what a coincidence that in the middle of the night a butch of orders start to apper to hit the yes that is the true.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Trying to get in cheaper?
Mr. House
9 months ago
Sorry to all people but this market is looking rig to me, what a coincidence that in the middle of the night a butch of orders start to apper.
abdendriel
9 months ago
As information is available, it should be shared with the PM community for transparency. Otherwise a whale could buy up all the Yes liquidity with early information before everyone else got the chance
FamilyCapital
9 months ago
On 30th september they scammed you, now they repeat same thing, bought under 20c YES, spamming comment section with "proofs", I wrote in discord as well in here in comment section, they gonna succeed it again. Voala.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Some Too Early voters voted Yes in the last vote. No was unchanged. As time passes, more info is revealed.
FamilyCapital
9 months ago
On 30th september they scammed you, now they repeat same thing, bought under 20c YES, spamming comment section with "proofs", I wrote in discord as well in here in comment section, they gonna succeed it again. Voala.
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF established control of these properties and tunnels beneath them. https://x.com/idfsoldiergirl/status/1841177612473025007?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Operation Northern Arrows is the name of the offensive in Lebanon. Ground troops are just a part of the wider offensive. Check launch date https://x.com/amnestyireland/status/1841775865920676269?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF self-reported that the offensive commenced a few hours ago on 30 Sep. Resolution source is A or B or Israel or C. The offensive commenced with artillery shelling in preparation for troop advance.
Car
9 months ago
nobody agreed it happened on september 30th. Otherwise the vote wouldnt have gone to P4
abdendriel
9 months ago
That’s a good attitude. It’s just one position in your diversified portfolio. But look, there’s no doubt what Bibi’s plan is with the “New Middle East” and complaints about 1701 buffer zone not enforced. It’s a matter of chance that the offensive started hours before this market closed.
🤺JustPunched
9 months ago
Man you guys are absolutely nutso
abdendriel
9 months ago
Don’t you just love it when things commence with a clear and decisive announcement? https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776
abdendriel
9 months ago
I love it when the military marked the commencement it’s operations with such a clear and decisive announcement!
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
our marriage
abdendriel
9 months ago
We were all there, waiting for the cabinet to approve it’s commencement on 30 Sep when finally the IDF tweet came out to announce it’s commencement.
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
Can anybody tell me what Operation “Northern Arrows” is??? WHAT IS IT???? https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776
abdendriel
9 months ago
We saw some Too Early voters decide they were ready to conclude. yes increased, no unchanged.
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
People were aping into a NO bet based on P4... but didn’t understand the meaning. Time to get out before you sell junk bonds!
abdendriel
9 months ago
100 tanks crossing the border, deep evacuation calls, IDF soldiers dead. It’s a military offensive. Go tell the families of fallen soldiers and displaced Lebanese residents that it’s a minor raid.
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
Timely confirmation of the “COMMENCEMENT OF A MILITARY OFFENSIVE” as per the rules. https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780570378248414 More Confirmation of the “COMMENCEMENT OF A MILITARY OFFENSIVE” in the September market BEFORE THE DEADLINE. https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840759133512888729 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840772769501331888 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840772824715173931 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780061948944504 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780093762699637 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780198683242905 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780570378248414 Google translates raids as raids, and airstrikes as airstrikes. https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840719580060070032 Bombed https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840758553016942887
abdendriel
9 months ago
The ones who did are the Yes holders now
Donkov
9 months ago
Greedy NOses, why didnt you take profits at .95C?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Rules: “commence military offensive”. IDF: “ In accordance with the decision of the political echelon, a few hours ago, the IDF began limited, localized, and targeted ground raids”. And thus the “Northern Arrows” offensive began as approved by upper echelons of government
abdendriel
9 months ago
The word “invasion” isn’t in the rules.
🤺JustPunched
9 months ago
It's really embarrassing that someone would exclude the title, and exclude the key piece of information. As you can see, when ChatGPT is given the title and the key piece of information, it immediately switches to No: https://chatgpt.com/share/66ff7c2a-8450-8012-95d6-abd707566ead
abdendriel
9 months ago
How can IDF tell the 60,000 displaced northern Israelis that it’s safe to return to border towns? Only by promising that they’ve established control.
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
Market rules for both the September and November Invade markets have been completely satisfied by Israel’s invasion into Lebanon. It's called AREA ACCESS DENIAL, a fundamental military strategy to establish control over a strategically important zone. In this case, pushing Hezbollah back 5KM to reestablish the UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which obligated Hezbollah to remain north of the Litani River. (i.e., to establish control over a portion of Lebanon.) Hezbollah has been in contravention of the Resolution ever since it was passed. Israel is intent on rectifying that problem by force, and once and for all! They started with the ground invasion on September 30th. This operation will continue until the openly stated and widely publicized stated objectives are achieved.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Resolution Sources: A or B or Israel or C. IDF announced the offensive began 30 Sep ET
BenCM
9 months ago
1 October Invasion was 30 September ET. That's the key fact.
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF established control over these properties and tunnels in Lebanon. https://x.com/idf/status/1841886439732134055?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Evidence of intent can surface after the action. If you travel somewhere, your intent can be evidenced by what you do after you arrive.
WhaleHunter
9 months ago
What happened in October cannot serve as evidence for September.
abdendriel
9 months ago
There have been so many buffer zone 1701 talks amongst Israeli leadership leading up to the offensive. Now the evacuation instructions roughly line up with the 1701 buffer zone
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
Israel's military has reportedly added ground units to its operation against the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah. The IDF's stated goal is to restore a demilitarized buffer zone in southern Lebanon to ensure the safe return of some 60,000 Israeli residents to homes in northern Israel.
abdendriel
9 months ago
No such thing as a high yield bond without risk. Online gambling isn’t a high yield bond. Understand the upset when IDF announces it launched the offensive hours before the market deadline.
Justifax
9 months ago
I understand some folks are bitter about getting rugged on the last day like this, but it happens, more often than you probably realize. Dozens of reputable outlets on Sept30th stated that the invasion had begun. That is a commencement.
abdendriel
9 months ago
With IDF casualties, IDF will need to update the nation on what the sacrifice was for. Achievements will be revealed soon
abdendriel
9 months ago
I don’t get it..
RememberAmalek
9 months ago
don't dispute yet we're fine
abdendriel
9 months ago
Some Too Early voters now have the info needed to vote yes. No is unchanged
abdendriel
9 months ago
Responding to supporting material with threats
Naak
9 months ago
You better start selling like the rest before you loose the rest.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Landmark post from the IDF: https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
FamilyCapital
9 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_yehAI5IQ Proof of an Israel invasion into Lebanon? Oh wait, this is about Russia invading Ukraine. But Ukraine has a lower population density and about 50 times a larger border with Russia and Belarus combined than Israel has with Lebanon. So how is it possible that we have no proof of an actual invasion of Israel into Lebanon on September 30th?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Resolution source: A or B or Israel or C
FamilyCapital
9 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_yehAI5IQ Proof of an Israel invasion into Lebanon? Oh wait, this is about Russia invading Ukraine. But Ukraine has a lower population density and about 50 times a larger border with Russia and Belarus combined than Israel has with Lebanon. So how is it possible that we have no proof of an actual invasion of Israel into Lebanon on September 30th?
abdendriel
9 months ago
To evidence intention, context around the action is needed. As context is found and comes out, the intentions of the offensive will become evident
Naak
9 months ago
All these yes holder who cant even read simple rules sharing unrelated news posts while selling their shares is funny.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Bibi at the UN: “ This is the map I presented here last year. It’s a map of a blessing. It shows Israel and its Arab partners forming a land bridge connecting Asia and Europe. Between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, across this bridge, we will lay rail lines..”
abdendriel
9 months ago
I wonder what IDF’s intentions are when asking for this evacuation
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ DF Arabic-language spokesman Avichay Adraee announced that more than 20 villages across southern Lebanon were being called on to evacuate as the military's ground operation against Hezbollah continued.” https://x.com/jerusalem_post/status/1841788164580552908?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ DF Arabic-language spokesman Avichay Adraee announced that more than 20 villages across southern Lebanon were being called on to evacuate as the military's ground operation against Hezbollah continued.” https://x.com/jerusalem_post/status/1841788164580552908?s=46
Fredi9999WASP🐝
9 months ago
"Lebanese army says it fired on Israeli troops after second soldier killed in strike" https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-823089
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes holders are presenting findings and arguments, soon to be made by a portion of the world who don’t even know what polymarket is. Question of whether Israel launched an offensive to control part of Lebanon will be discussed even after this market is resolved. We’re not threatening anyone or saying something bad will happen to your shares. On the other hand, more and more No holders (not all) are going to threats and talking about the price.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Major” isn’t in the rules. Military offensive includes bombing the capitol of a country. Or even artillery shelling
🤺JustPunched
9 months ago
This video shows a small raid. If you have video of a major offensive (or anything close to that) designed to control parts of Lebanon on September 30th, I think that would be very pertinent information to bring forward.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Pearl Harbour: military offensive launched when planes departed from Japan. At the time of launch, the planes were not yet in US airspace and no Americans witnessed it until they arrived.
abdendriel
9 months ago
This is a pattern when Yes side are all facts and no side are all threats
EdgyUsername
9 months ago
anyone know what's up?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Similarly, IDF (resolution source) announced the launch of their offensive on 30 Sep, saying it started hours ago. The offensive involved shelling and alleged use of white phosphorous, followed by troop advance.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Pearl Harbour was a military offensive. Before the planes entered US airspace, the offensive had been launched. Americans did not witness the launch from Japan.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Pearl Harbour was a military offensive. Before the planes entered US airspace, the offensive had been launched. Americans did not witness the launch from Japan.
Justifax
9 months ago
The "Northern Arrows operation" commenced on Sept 30th, ET. This has been broadly reported by every single media outlet. Nobody disputes this - nobody. As to the specific tactics of the operation, sure, who knows exactly what precisely happened. But the rules don't ask for that. You can argue 'control' if you want, but it is very unserious to argue 'commence' when every headline agrees on exactly when this operation started.
abdendriel
9 months ago
They’re one of the resolution sources. No need for hezbollah to see them if hezbollah are hiding somewhere
Donkov
9 months ago
No need to guess, when the IDF says they are already going in, before the deadline https://x.com/IDF/status/1840890054819864776
abdendriel
9 months ago
That sounds like someone who wants to keep liquidity available
mr.ozi
9 months ago
It no longer matters what should or shouldn't happen. We already know the 80% of the UMA votes. It's pretty much a done deal, independently of what actually happened on the ground.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The offensive is called the Northern Arrows operation
Justifax
9 months ago
Why this market should go same as November: assume that the offensive didn't commence on Sept 30th despite every headline from every credible outlet saying it did. Ask yourself - at what point does the offensive commence?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Too early is about intention to control a portion. Voting and disputes had plenty of time after the deadline.
mr.ozi
9 months ago
Voting No is logically wrong, because the resolution was proposed a few hours before the deadline, so in principle Israel could've invaded between the proposal before the deadline. The Too Early votes can essentially be seen as No votes for the next round.
abdendriel
9 months ago
It was too early then, but now, the “control of a portion” of Lebanese space is evident on photo (self-reported by IDF) and video
Donkov
9 months ago
90% voted p4 - too early, and 10% - Yes.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The intent to control a portion is now playing out because there’s footage of them actually doing it.
Tenebrus7
9 months ago
If Yes would be a viable solution for too early wouldn't have dropped so much but rather like the Maduro market to 80 first and then slowly going down with more evidence. All the yes holders hope for is another pump and dump in the 30s
abdendriel
9 months ago
Btw is all this info in the discord right now? It seems like all boxes are tucked in the rules.
Donkov
9 months ago
Yep, the "special military raids". They can call it whatever they want. Doesnt change the reality, that they right now occupy parts of Lebanon.
abdendriel
9 months ago
1:46 they’re controlling that area between those buildings
Donkov
9 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sAiPglN-o8
abdendriel
9 months ago
Same boat but I don’t understand the controversy..
Anti-ScamLawyer
9 months ago
So I just now bought these 2.7k shares it’s clear to me it was an invasion per the rules. I understand the controversy but I’m going to assume that this is going to resolve correctly despite was so,e of the naysayers and other people are saying about the possibly biased voting mechanism (which I do not understand. I’m new to this site). Seems like the controversy was cleared up officially now. For me it is a good test to see if Polymarket rules resolutions can be trusted to stay true to English and logic
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes and there doesn’t need to contact for an offensive to be launched. Napoleon launched a military offensive into Russia
Donkov
9 months ago
We know for certainty, that the IDF took the Lebanese border crossings (part of Lebanon clay), as the Lebanese army retreated north.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Northern Arrows was approved evening of 30 Sep and artillery shelling started. That’s a military offensive (so was pearl harbour). The intention has played out as IDF control portions of land with Hezb assets on them
abdendriel
9 months ago
When a rocket is launched from one country to another, the launch time refers to the rocket starting the journey, even if it’s still within the origin country’s airspace.
abdendriel
9 months ago
When a rocket is launched from one country to another, the launch time refers to the rocket starting the journey, even if it’s still within the origin country’s airspace.
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF are going to settle down somewhere in Lebanon and it will be clear it’s under their control.
Donkov
9 months ago
Nothing is decided. Vote was too early. More evidence comes out by the day.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Israel’s military offensive (Northern Arrows) included giving instructions to Lebanese citizens to leave. IDF are giving orders to residents and following up with military activity. This is an intention to control “ The Israeli military warned people in 50 Lebanese villages and towns to evacuate north of the Awali River, some 60 kilometers (37 miles) from the border and much farther than the northern edge of a U.N.-declared zone intended to serve as a buffer between Israel and Hezbollah after their 2006 war. Hundreds of thousands have already fled their homes.”
Donkov
9 months ago
Israel presses forward on two fronts and reports https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-lebanon-hezbollah-gaza-news-10-02-2024-7d93f71b7894177b4f9c303671ee55de
abdendriel
9 months ago
Anyone doubts that this portion is under IDF control? Can Hezbollah go there and use it now or is it in the hands of the IDF?
abdendriel
9 months ago
The tripod is sitting on a triangular portion of Lebanon that IDF control. Their intention was to control this rocket launcher so it stopped launching rockets.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The tripod is sitting on a triangular portion of Lebanon that IDF control. Their intention was to control this rocket launcher so it stopped launching rockets.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ Here is Hezbollah attack infrastructure, which included a rocket launcher, explosive stockpiles and additional military equipment that our forces located and destroyed:”. IDF posted a picture of a Hezbollah rocket launcher which they now control. https://x.com/idf/status/1841436605669835238?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ Here is Hezbollah attack infrastructure, which included a rocket launcher, explosive stockpiles and additional military equipment that our forces located and destroyed:”. IDF posted a picture of a Hezbollah rocket launcher which they now control. https://x.com/idf/status/1841436605669835238?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
“IDF soldiers will mark the holiday in the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, Judea and Samaria“ says IDF. They intend to celebrate Rosh Hashanah in a portion of Lebanon, all possible because of an offensive approved and launched on the night of 30 Sep. https://x.com/idf/status/1841506768364466419?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Did the tanks park overnight?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Military offensive? yes. Intention to control a portion? We’ll see which portion the tanks are parked on. Unless they’re driving back and forth daily.
abdendriel
9 months ago
What’s the source of doubt right now? Intention to control a portion of Lebanon?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Hahahahhaha
Gena🐊
10 months ago
People don't realize that among americans there is a sexual practice where, usually a man, kisses the anus of another man. Thinking that Americans are virginal saints and won't get the diseases is just nuts.
abdendriel
9 months ago
How did the aircraft enter the Hezbollah tunnels then?
Besh24
9 months ago
Raids they mention are air raids to prepare for a ground operation. Ground raids are incoming. The yes market bullies unfortunately need some reality check
abdendriel
9 months ago
Israel is included in the resolution source as well as a consensus of credible reporting. We have both
notinventedhere
9 months ago
📝 🇱🇧 *Field Reports from Southern Lebanon* 📡 *Field correspondents* on the southern Lebanese borders are reporting that, as of now, there has been *no breakthrough* at the borders. However, rescue helicopters have been spotted evacuating *Israeli soldiers* on two separate occasions. 🚁 ⚠️ It is important to highlight that the ongoing *media blackout* from both sides is making it extremely difficult to obtain *precise and live* information. Much of the news currently being shared is through the observations of local people who remain in the area, close to *UNIFIL* and the *Lebanese Army* forces. 🪖👀 *📲 Stay tuned for more updates and insights with Wider Vision!*
abdendriel
9 months ago
I can’t believe there’s still a question about whether a military offensive occurred. IDF have even announced it.
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
More confirmations just keep piling in! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9EK2bddG_Y, https://thenightly.com.au/world/lebanon-israel-commences-ground-invasion--c-16237510, https://www.arabnews.pk/node/2573438/middle-east, https://www.observerbd.com/news/492816, https://x.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1840966652092981709
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes, Lebanon not enforcing 1701 so Israel saying they’ll do it for them
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
Your logic is faulty. Israel's intent has been made public for weeks!!!
abdendriel
9 months ago
There’s no evidence that the military operation was offensive, because IDF stands for Israel Defense Force, not Offence Force.
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
CNN now confirming!!! https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk The Times of Israel now confirming, too!!!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-30-2024/ Now, the Independent confirming! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion-war-leaders-iran-live-updates-b2621409.html The Telegraph now confirming!!! https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-inavsion-latest-news/ Forbes has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/09/30/israel-begins-ground-raids-in-southern-lebanon/ NPR confirming!!! https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s1-5133463/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion Reuters now confirming!!!! We have a massive "consensus of credible reporting"!!! Resolution of this market? YES, YES, YES! https://www.reuters.com/world/lebanon-israel-live-updates-hezbollah-hamas-yemen-port-hit-by-airstrikes-2024-09-30/ Israeli military has now confirmed! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-hamas-war-news-gaza/ The country of Israel has now CONFIRMED!!! It's Yes! https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/1/israel-says-has-started-targeted-ground-raids-in-lebanon The IDF has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.smh.com.au/world/idf-confirms-ground-invasion-underway-in-lebanon-20241001-p5kesd.html
abdendriel
9 months ago
So the intention was a short-term occupation, not long term
HsB34sgg
9 months ago
CNN now confirming!!! https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk The Times of Israel now confirming, too!!!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-30-2024/ Now, the Independent confirming! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion-war-leaders-iran-live-updates-b2621409.html The Telegraph now confirming!!! https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-inavsion-latest-news/ Forbes has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/09/30/israel-begins-ground-raids-in-southern-lebanon/ NPR confirming!!! https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s1-5133463/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion Reuters now confirming!!!! We have a massive "consensus of credible reporting"!!! Resolution of this market? YES, YES, YES! https://www.reuters.com/world/lebanon-israel-live-updates-hezbollah-hamas-yemen-port-hit-by-airstrikes-2024-09-30/ Israeli military has now confirmed! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-hamas-war-news-gaza/ The country of Israel has now CONFIRMED!!! It's Yes! https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/1/israel-says-has-started-targeted-ground-raids-in-lebanon The IDF has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.smh.com.au/world/idf-confirms-ground-invasion-underway-in-lebanon-20241001-p5kesd.html
abdendriel
9 months ago
There’s no evidence IDF are not permitting Hezbollah militants from walking through the tanks, enjoying the tunnels, and walking right up to the blue line as long alas they’re in Lebanese territory.
abdendriel
9 months ago
100 tanks sitting in Lebanon. But they’re not controlling the area where they’re parked. Villagers are for sure hanging their laundry on the turrets
abdendriel
9 months ago
The intention is in the rhetoric pre invasion
Cedarville
9 months ago
I don't believe there's consensus on the intent of the incursion, and there's not enough information about current troops' movement/activities.. Switched to "no"
abdendriel
9 months ago
There’s a military offensive and prior to that, plenty of reports of officials talking about the need for a buffer zone. Anyway, they are in control of the ola e where the tanks have parked
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://www.jns.org/renewed-buffer-zone-in-lebanon-a-must-chikli/
abdendriel
9 months ago
That’s exactly what you’re missing. Their intentions are reported before they start the operation
abdendriel
9 months ago
Sources of intention are in past news, not breaking news. That’s where you’re not looking: https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-general-said-pushing-for-ground-incursion-to-create-south-lebanon-buffer-zone/amp/
abdendriel
9 months ago
Sources of intention are in past news, not breaking news. That’s where you’re not looking: https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-general-said-pushing-for-ground-incursion-to-create-south-lebanon-buffer-zone/amp/
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-general-said-pushing-for-ground-incursion-to-create-south-lebanon-buffer-zone/amp/
abdendriel
9 months ago
The only remaining question is intention.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The only remaining question is intention.
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF not only degraded Hezbollah’s assets, but also those of No holders with there transparent report on operation Northern Arrows
abdendriel
9 months ago
The IDF couldn’t have checked more boxes in the rules with this announcement: https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Let me guess, AI
notinventedhere
9 months ago
As of September 30, 2024, intense conflict continues between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Israeli airstrikes have resulted in significant casualties, including the death of Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah and several senior commanders. Despite these losses, Hezbollah has vowed to continue its resistance, and there are indications that Israel may be preparing for a ground invasion, with Defense Minister Yoav Gallant suggesting the use of all available resources. However, no ground operations involving Israeli troops on Lebanese soil have been reported as of the end of September.
abdendriel
9 months ago
I liquidated my earlier position because I realized No holders may have been right about whether troops have entered. But now that’s happened, question is the intention of Northern Arrows
abdendriel
9 months ago
Either way, wish you happy Rosh Hashanah
n/a
9 months ago
If the No wins I wish you guys a happy Rosh Hashanah!
abdendriel
9 months ago
Consensus of credible reporting already reported the raids in the recent days
n/a
9 months ago
Seeing as the results will be from Isreal ans Hezbollah everyone voting yes should visit thr verfied isreali news channels.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Don’t confuse this market with the invasion market. It’s now clear that IDF jumped the gun and conducted raids before today
abdendriel
9 months ago
No all of them said they did raids already
Besh24
9 months ago
All news wires say they havent gone in yet
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes they crossed before today in recent days during raids
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
They still DID NOT cross the border.
abdendriel
9 months ago
At the strategic level, a phase continue for years. Not all phases of combat include fighting between armed forces. Phases can, and usually do overlap, and sometimes can be planned for parallel execution, often as part of deception planning. Phases typically found in offensive military operations are: Preparation Intelligence gathering phase[1] Operations planning phase Logistics management phase Deception and counterintelligence phase Assembly phase https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Intelligence gathering is part of combat operations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
Will143
9 months ago
A raid is a surprise attack against a position or installation for a specific purpose other than seizing and holding the terrain. It is conducted to destroy a position or installation, destroy or capture enemy soldiers or equipment, or free prisoners. A raid patrol retains terrain just long enough to accomplish the intent of the raid. A raid always ends with a withdrawal off the objective and a return to the main body
abdendriel
9 months ago
I wonder if I need to keep repeating myself for 2 whole days about WSJ, CNN, and a host of credible reports of raids intensifying over recent days in preparation for the invasion. Don’t confuse this with the other invasion market
abdendriel
9 months ago
Facts are that a consensus of credible reporting came out over the past day around raids into lebanon
JoeBETS
9 months ago
Does polymarket always side with the 90%+ shareholders, I'm new but I feel like they're weak people who will always side with what everyone else is saying rather than basing off factual reports.
abdendriel
9 months ago
WSJ, CNN, Telegraph, many others reported the raids. Don’t confuse with the wider invasion
zynyz
9 months ago
Only ways for this to resolve Yes "official confirmation by Hezbollah and Israel" This has not happened, " Consensus of credible reporting" Israel’s Channel 12: Contrary to reports, there is currently no Israeli ground entry into Lebanon There is no consensus.
abdendriel
9 months ago
They’re not undercover. They just want to exclude mossad. In fact they’re recognising that intelligence is part of combat operations by adding that phrase to exclude mossad who are everywhere
n/a
9 months ago
Guys why do you think they added "Undercover Israeli operatives and assets will not count." in this new market they made. https://polymarket.com/event/will-israel-troops-enter-beirut-by-october-31 Because they want to make it clear that special ops gathering intelligence DOESN'T COUNT.
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s clear there’s a consensus of credible reporting that combat operations took place during raids into Lebanon in an intensifying manner in recent days. The raids were part of the preparation for the invasion
0x0067e40e99580bB4f48f377786e1f595557578D4-1722634879022
9 months ago
Think of it a system where we are all unsure about the outcome of this market, nobody really knows how it's going to end (either yes or no). Your best estimator is actually the number of people saying Yes or No not how much they put in value in the market which in this cases causes mispricing since the estimated probability is in favor of No with No/(Sum of Yes and No) is equal to 62.8% during the last 6 hours. Compare that to the market prices right now and you'll notice this is just how big your balls are
abdendriel
9 months ago
Reading the rules, it looks like they’ve already launched a military offensive
abdendriel
9 months ago
That’s because the facts were revealed that they were doing combat operations within Lebanon in the recent days
0x0067e40e99580bB4f48f377786e1f595557578D4-1722634879022
9 months ago
The real probability when taking out the effect of whales is 62.8% in favor of No. In the last 6 hours, the number of No buys stands at 691 while the Yes buys at 409.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The intent of them being there during raids is reported as preparation for the invasion.
n/a
9 months ago
For it to be resolved as “Yes,” Israeli military personnel need to physically enter Lebanese territory specifically for combat operation. Now, “combat operations” means more than just being present—it involves being there with an intent for combat, like setting up a position, advancing into enemy areas, preparing for a potential fight etc. Direct engagement isn’t necessarily required, but the intent must be combat-oriented.On the other hand, intelligence-gathering missions are different. If Israeli troops enter Lebanon purely for reconnaissance or covert information gathering, and there’s no combat objective, that wouldn’t count under the definition of “combat operations” for this market.
abdendriel
9 months ago
CNN, WSJ, all reported that they already conducted raids intensifying leading up to today
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://apnews.com/article/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-gaza-news-09-30-2024-83ea5f243688f309754ec74850de4238
abdendriel
9 months ago
They already have been doing raids
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
Lebanon incursion awaiting cabinet approval, IDF operates in West Bank
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/30/israel-attacks-live-blog-lebanon-yemen-hamas-hezbollah-news-updates-middle-east-crisis
abdendriel
9 months ago
When you take a dump, you control the toilet stall you’re in
abdendriel
9 months ago
Oops I bought yes but forgot to consider the possibility that IDF might not stay
abdendriel
9 months ago
Wonder if the IDF intend to allow Hezbollah to enter their campsite on the Lebanon side once they’ve established it. Controlling who can enter and exit is considered controlling an area
abdendriel
9 months ago
This is the safest market you can get. Rare occasion when somethings already happened but there’s still yes liquidity. Also, an invasion will clear all disputes
abdendriel
9 months ago
They are doing artillery shelling and the tanks are right on the border.
Donkov
9 months ago
did they invade?
abdendriel
9 months ago
WSJ, CNN, and now even more news outlets report that US officials confirm that Special Forces raids already happened and have been intensifying up to today.
iwantam4
9 months ago
Why some guys are saying that already resulted in "Yes"?
abdendriel
9 months ago
UN evacuating border
abdendriel
9 months ago
That’s the right move for them.
Prophet👻
9 months ago
Lebanese army withdraws from positions on southern border with Israel, sources say
abdendriel
9 months ago
Or maybe I shouldn’t say anything, more expensive yes’s don’t help me
abdendriel
9 months ago
The artillery has started on the border. Artillery, not air strikes
abdendriel
9 months ago
Special forces raids aren’t undercover. Like how undercover cops aren’t in uniform.
n/a
9 months ago
Polymarket knows they made a mistake with this market. They made a new similar market here https://polymarket.com/event/will-israel-troops-enter-beirut-by-october-31/will-israel-troops-enter-beirut-by-october-31?tid=1727720169724 and make it clear in the rules this time that "Undercover Israeli operatives and assets will not count." This market WILL. resolve to "No".
abdendriel
9 months ago
The artillery has started on the border. Artillery, not air strikes
abdendriel
9 months ago
Consensus of credible reporting that the raids intensified over the past few days
Caligulas.dog
9 months ago
I have a feeling this will resolve to yes cause of market manipulations, but, still too good to not be part off
abdendriel
9 months ago
Read the news and the rules. It’s happened. The fun is in the invasion market now
n/a
9 months ago
Just because a bunch of whales buy "Yes" doesn’t mean it’s true. When has something that’s been proposed last been trading at 90c? Whenever something is certain to resolve a particular way, it’s trading at 99c for "Yes" or "No" almost immediately. The fact that this isn’t the case here should tell you everything—there’s clearly a lot of uncertainty because the evidence doesn’t definitively support a "Yes" outcome. The market itself is uncertain, and that’s because the evidence is shaky at best.
abdendriel
9 months ago
He is right though, some people came into this market without reading the details, thinking it’s tick tock. But actually it’s about a reveal of the flop, turn and river, cards that are already on the table
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
Manipulation
abdendriel
9 months ago
You should read the news
n/a
9 months ago
Clear as day.
abdendriel
9 months ago
And also because the conditions are met.
crow
9 months ago
For people wondering why the price of no is still low because there is a guy called 50-pence scammer who keeps buying yes shares thinking that it will resolve to yes if the price of yes is high
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF sent out photos of their their operational plans approved
abdendriel
9 months ago
That’s why US were pissed that the raids already happened
OhNos
9 months ago
My Guess is Israel will wait for the newly deployed F-15E, F-16, A-10 and F-22 fighter planes to arrive in the Middle East to help protect US troops before invading, My reasoning for taking NO on this market probably the Only US request Israel will listen too lol , remember they need our weapons if they plan to go to war.
abdendriel
9 months ago
They intensified leading up to the upcoming invasion
n/a
9 months ago
These special forces agents carried out "intelligence-gathering" raids as stated by the New York Post. This is the "combat operations" you guys are speaking of? Sounds a lot more like they were trying to AVOID combat. On top of nothing that proves it was done between September 18 and September 30, 2024, 11:59 PM ET?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Enjoy!
n/a
9 months ago
i dont even know nuffin. shit we just hopin
abdendriel
9 months ago
If it wasn’t for him we all could’ve had better yes liquidity
Kavim
9 months ago
50-Pence should be banned
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat operations include preparation for an invasion. This is widely reported and recapitulated many times. Scroll down
n/a
9 months ago
https://www.timesofisrael.com/troops-said-to-enter-hezbollah-tunnels-with-pre-invasion-forays-into-lebanon/ “The report, which cited unnamed sources familiar with the matter, said the raids have taken place over the past months, as well as more recently, with troops ‘probing’ and gathering intelligence, as activity ramps up ahead of a possible ground offensive.” There is no way you’re telling me we’re gonna be resolving to “Yes” based off this? This entire report is built on vague claims from unnamed sources, talking about “probing” and “gathering intelligence”—there’s nothing here that confirms combat intent.
abdendriel
9 months ago
No it will be the truth
notinventedhere
9 months ago
if this resolve to yes this will be fraud
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/security-cabinet-convenes-as-signs-of-looming-ground-offensive-multiply/
abdendriel
9 months ago
Security Cabinet convening now
abdendriel
9 months ago
Security Cabinet convening now
abdendriel
9 months ago
Given most major news outlets have reported this with US officials as a source, how about the burden of proof is on the No-side?
NothingEverHappens
9 months ago
"The official said: “They are targeting key sites which have been built across the border zone." your guy doesn't even have a name, "credible concensus" can't apply for a rumor like a guy said this or that because we don't know if it's propaganda or else. If you don't have CQB footages or pictures to back that up it doesn't worth anything.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Widely reported raids intensifying in recent days leading up to the invasion. The raids are combat operations (includes even things like desk work)
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
This market will resolve to No because of three main reasons: 1) Raids were not combat operation, they were for gathering information and intelligence. You didn't see them bombing anything or killing anyone in these so called "raids". 2) Even if these raids would count (they shouldn't), not a single source knows when these so called "raids" happened. They mention that Israel did it a few months ago since October 7, but this market does not consider anything before September 18. 3) Troops are still not in Lebanon, which is the main reason for why we all placed bets in this market.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Polymarket could hardly exist if that were the case.
NothingEverHappens
9 months ago
If Israel does spec ops they won't claim it "The resolution source for this market will be official confirmation by Hezbollah and Israel, however a consensus of credible reporting may also be used." and what is credible reporting unless you are a shin bet operative with a go pro you can't prove anything.
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1955251/israel-special-forces-lebanon
abdendriel
9 months ago
Just read the news. The raids have been intensifying in recent days leading up to the imminent invasion
n/a
9 months ago
There really is nothing more to add. This is absolutely a “No”.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Consensus of credible reporting doesn’t require individual names
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
"A military spokesperson said no ground operation had started and added that the Israel Defense Forces did not comment on special operations." So easy, like seriously.
abdendriel
9 months ago
As they told the US that they would
RoseCharts
9 months ago
We all shitposting but there is still a chance Israel actually invades Lebanon in the next 11 hours lol
abdendriel
9 months ago
The raids are confirmed by a consensus of credible reporting
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
"A military spokesperson said no ground operation had started and added that the Israel Defense Forces did not comment on special operations." So easy, like seriously.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Not only IDF soldiers have insights now that the media’s all over the raids
NothingEverHappens
9 months ago
Either it's Whale style pump and dump or we got IDF soldiers with insights going all in. But the thing is that Israel won't invade without a massive carpet bombing or artilery preparation lasting at least for a month. It's very strange + the stuborn guys pushing for YES in the resolution section. I mean I don't know what to think about that.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Anyways, every word of the rules has been backed up with sources now. It would be funny (but actually not funny for those displaced) if the invasion started. “ Israel has notified the US that it intends to launch a limited ground operation into Lebanon that could begin within hours, a US official confirmed to CBS on Monday. ”
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat operations includes much less violent activities than these raids, which were reported to have damaged hezbollah outposts
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
This market will resolve to No because of three main reasons: 1) Raids were not combat operation, they were for gathering information and intelligence. You didn't see them bombing anything or killing anyone in these so called "raids". 2) Even if these raids would count (they shouldn't), Not a single source knows when these so called "raids" happened. They mention that Israel did it a few months ago since October 7. 3) Troops are still not in Lebanon, which is the main reason why we all placed bets here.
abdendriel
9 months ago
They said the imminent invasion won’t be major either. Small raids have happened, limited invasion imminent
SpaceHooves
9 months ago
"As of right now, I can say there are no major ground activities in Lebanon," Israel Defense Forces spokesman Major David Baruch told reporters in Israel Monday afternoon. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-yemen-strikes-houthis-hamas-civilian-deaths/
abdendriel
9 months ago
US Marine Corps Combat Operations Centre (hint: they’re on laptops gathering and collating info) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sep4dLnm-fA
crow
9 months ago
I don't understand how people can't tell the difference between combat operations and military purposes
abdendriel
9 months ago
On the invasion market, yea that’s possible
Kavim
9 months ago
All YES gamblers go lose some money on this too: https://polymarket.com/event/will-israel-invade-lebanon-in-september?tid=1727699860870
abdendriel
9 months ago
Incursion is not in the rules. But newer updates not include the word
Sandor
9 months ago
Your own source disputes your claim: "US officials are currently not describing these Israeli raids as a ground incursion, even as they continue to carefully brace for the possibility of a limited ground operation that could come in the coming days."
abdendriel
9 months ago
They’re not only on Lebanon soil, they’re under it too
Tji22
9 months ago
It clearly says troops on Lebanon soil they still at the border my boy
abdendriel
9 months ago
Their intent is to invade. The operations are reported as part of a wider invasion to degrade Hezbollah
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
For the market to resolve to "Yes," there would need to be a clear indication of Israeli troops engaging in combat within Lebanese territory. Given the current reports, these operations appear to fall short of that threshold, suggesting that they may not meet the criteria for the market.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Reconnaissance in preparation for an invasion is. Also destroying outposts
blameanarchism
9 months ago
For those saying there have been 'physical operations inside Lebanon', would you consider any spy operation in any foreign nation as an invasion?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Many authoritative sources of what’s included in Combat Operations below. USMC combat operations includes working with a laptop, let alone raids to destroy outposts
JoeBETS
9 months ago
It specifically says israel to enter for combat operations. gathering intel or preparing for a potential, does NOT apply..
abdendriel
9 months ago
Those are exactly the rules actually
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
Given that military officials have stated that no decision has been made about a major ground operation, it reinforces your earlier points about the current situation. Until there is a clear commitment from Israel to launch a significant ground offensive that involves crossing into Lebanon with the intent to engage in combat, the raids you've described would likely not fulfill the criteria for the market to resolve to "Yes."
abdendriel
9 months ago
Except from US officials
RoseCharts
9 months ago
There are no official confirmations
abdendriel
9 months ago
But they say they’ve done the comps at operations with the intention of preparing for the invasion
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
Given that military officials have stated that no decision has been made about a major ground operation, it reinforces your earlier points about the current situation. Until there is a clear commitment from Israel to launch a significant ground offensive that involves crossing into Lebanon with the intent to engage in combat, the raids you've described would likely not fulfill the criteria for the market to resolve to "Yes."
abdendriel
9 months ago
Intensifying in recent days
Tories4Harris
9 months ago
MONTHS: The incursions follow months of similar covert missions in which Israeli special forces briefly crossed the Lebanon border for reconnaissance, but have increased in intensity in recent days as commanders prepared for a wider maneuver, three of the officials said.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Well imagine living in Lebanon.
Hamurabi
9 months ago
The Yes went from 13c to 95c in one hour and then straight for resolution and the Yes guys want to convince us that this is perfectly normal and and just happened because it's true 🤣🤣🤣
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF did
Besh24
9 months ago
He has single handedly resolved this
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Combat Operations”: USMC, USAF, CAF all define it to include screen time work (let along RAIDS / destroying outposts). “Consensus of credible reporting”: first Telegraph reported it was in a briefing, then WSJ, then CNN from US officials. “Recent days” doesn’t mean 2 weeks ago.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Incursion” isn’t in the rules. It’s Combat Operations
n/a
9 months ago
US officials are currently not describing these Israeli raids as a ground incursion !!!
abdendriel
9 months ago
Rules don’t say anything about “incursion”. Combat Operations
abdendriel
9 months ago
Rules do t say anything
abdendriel
9 months ago
Rules do t say anything
Bigiorn
9 months ago
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk#cm1p0tx1b00003b6mp84lj4hj
abdendriel
9 months ago
CNN now reports the source as “US officials” https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk?Date=20240930&Profile=cnnbrk&utm_content=1727708106&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&t=1727708687285
abdendriel
9 months ago
A consensus of credible reporting may also be used. Read the rules
3,3
9 months ago
How amusing these attempts are to present articles from the NYTimes/WSJ/other American media as truth, instead of waiting for official statements from Israel/Lebanon.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Plenty of authoritative sources provided below on what’s included in “combat operations”. Desk work included according to USMC
subtledrift
9 months ago
no news article says "combat" operation. most say "limited ground" operation
abdendriel
9 months ago
Point being, combat operations doesn’t equate to shootout. But it definitely includes special forces Raids
abdendriel
9 months ago
In case anyone’s interested in Combat Operations jobs with the Canadian Armed Forces (there are desk jobs available) https://forces.ca/en/careers/combat
abdendriel
9 months ago
Legally combat operations includes even includes cyber https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/combat-operations
abdendriel
9 months ago
In case anyone’s interested in Combat Operations jobs with the Canadian Armed Forces (there are desk jobs available) https://forces.ca/en/careers/combat
abdendriel
9 months ago
US Marine Corps Combat Operations Centre (hint: they’re on laptops gathering and collating info) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sep4dLnm-fA
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://irp.fas.org/doddir/army/fm34-1/ch4.htm
abdendriel
9 months ago
Federation of American Scientists on Combat Operations (includes a lot of non fighting activities, like rear operations)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Federation of American Scientists on Combat Operations (includes a lot of non fighting activities, like rear operations)
abdendriel
9 months ago
How USAF defines combat operations is relevant, as a branch of the worlds most significant military
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Division members execute the ATO through constant command and control of the battle space, subordinate Theater Air Control System elements and assigned assets. The COD adjusts the ATO in response to changing situations such as battlefield dynamics, maintenance problems or adverse weather, and publishes changes to the ATO and the Airspace Control Order at throughout each execution day. The COD assumes responsibility for the next day’s ATO as soon as it is released from the Combat Plans Division. Organization The COD is led operationally by the Chief of Combat Operations. Specific mission requirements dictate the elements that comprise the COD at any given time. The COD is composed of offensive, defensive, and intelligence duty officers as well as weather, airspace management, and joint personnel recovery representatives. Liaison teams representing sister services, Coalition countries, various weapons systems and other specialties also augment the COD. Depending on the nature of the operations, typical liaison teams include the Army Battlefield Detachment, Navy and Amphibious Liaison Element, Special Operations Liaison Element, Marine Liaison Officer, Coalition liaisons, and other platform-specific liaisons with detailed knowledge of their aircraft.”
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Division members execute the ATO through constant command and control of the battle space, subordinate Theater Air Control System elements and assigned assets. The COD adjusts the ATO in response to changing situations such as battlefield dynamics, maintenance problems or adverse weather, and publishes changes to the ATO and the Airspace Control Order at throughout each execution day. The COD assumes responsibility for the next day’s ATO as soon as it is released from the Combat Plans Division. Organization The COD is led operationally by the Chief of Combat Operations. Specific mission requirements dictate the elements that comprise the COD at any given time. The COD is composed of offensive, defensive, and intelligence duty officers as well as weather, airspace management, and joint personnel recovery representatives. Liaison teams representing sister services, Coalition countries, various weapons systems and other specialties also augment the COD. Depending on the nature of the operations, typical liaison teams include the Army Battlefield Detachment, Navy and Amphibious Liaison Element, Special Operations Liaison Element, Marine Liaison Officer, Coalition liaisons, and other platform-specific liaisons with detailed knowledge of their aircraft.”
abdendriel
9 months ago
USAF: “ The Combat Operations Division (COD) executes and monitors the Combined Force Air Component Commander’s daily Air Tasking Order (ATO), a document that directs daily air operations with respect to aircraft sorties, weapons loads and operational tasks. As one of five divisions within the Combined Air Operations Center (CAOC), the COD enables the CAOC to meet its mission as the primary command and control facility for Coalition air operations in the U.S. Central Command’s (USCENTCOM) Area of Responsibility (AOR). The COD serves as the CAOC’s dynamic around-the-clock operations floor.” https://www.afcent.af.mil/About/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/217807/
abdendriel
9 months ago
USAF: “ The Combat Operations Division (COD) executes and monitors the Combined Force Air Component Commander’s daily Air Tasking Order (ATO), a document that directs daily air operations with respect to aircraft sorties, weapons loads and operational tasks. As one of five divisions within the Combined Air Operations Center (CAOC), the COD enables the CAOC to meet its mission as the primary command and control facility for Coalition air operations in the U.S. Central Command’s (USCENTCOM) Area of Responsibility (AOR). The COD serves as the CAOC’s dynamic around-the-clock operations floor.” https://www.afcent.af.mil/About/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/217807/
abdendriel
9 months ago
A consensus of reporting clearly state that the raids are part of a wider invasion.
n/a
9 months ago
Yes, “combat operations” isn’t just “combat,” but the key here is that “combat” must still be an intended part of the operation. What we see here are raids focused on intelligence gathering, probing, and targeting infrastructure—there’s no clear intent for direct combat. The market requires Israeli forces to be deployed with the intent for combat, not just to collect information or disrupt infrastructure. Think about the Cold War: when the Americans and Soviets were spying on each other, was the intent for combat or simply gathering intelligence? It was clearly intelligence gathering, not combat. Similarly, these recent raids are about preparation and intel, not combat, therefore this should clearly resolve to “No.”
abdendriel
9 months ago
The 7 functions of Combat : https://advancedforcesgroup.com/en/the-7-functions-of-combat/
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat Operations : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Again, combat operations, not combat alone. There’s a reason the word operations is in there.
n/a
9 months ago
Every piece of evidence out there talks about intelligence gathering, probing, and targeting infrastructure. These raids have been going on for months and are clearly part of a preparation strategy. There’s absolutely no credible source that mentions Israeli troops being deployed with the intent for direct combat. “Combat” literally means “fighting between armed forces”—not intelligence gathering or probing. The sources cited are vague and anonymous, lacking any named individuals or concrete intel with specific dates or times. It is clear as day that this must resolve to “No.”
abdendriel
9 months ago
No holders looking for ways out
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s true, anything can happen in war.
VaithunPhuSang-Fabric
9 months ago
the market is crazy to predict :)))
abdendriel
9 months ago
CNN reports that the special forces raids included damaging Hezbollah outposts in preparation for the invasion. Those are exactly the kind of combat operations special operations personnel would conduct.
abdendriel
9 months ago
A scammer is someone who tells you that online betting is actually a AAA bond with unusually high interest.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat operations isn’t limited to a shootout. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Not the only source. WSJ, CNN, Telegraph reported it. telegraph’s source was a briefing.
CYQ
9 months ago
So the Anonymous source was bragging to his drinking buddies. No confirmation from Hezbollah. I have to confess, I can finally confess, I was that Anonymous Source
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s funny how Yes holders are all providing research and sources while No holders are all threats.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The rules work on consensus of credible reporting. Right now they point to Yes. Burden of proof is on the counter argument.
n/a
9 months ago
There simply is no proof to answer this question yes. An unnamed US source said recently there where reconaissance operations. It does not say anything if it happened in the time frame from the 18th of September until today. We all agree that proof is needed to resolve, whether it is a polymarket or a legal case. And there is none yet.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ At the strategic level, a phase continue for years. Not all phases of combat include fighting between armed forces. Phases can, and usually do overlap, and sometimes can be planned for parallel execution, often as part of deception planning. Phases typically found in offensive military operations are: Preparation Intelligence gathering phase[1] Operations planning phase Logistics management phase Deception and counterintelligence phase Assembly phase” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat operations you mean
🤺JustPunched
9 months ago
I think this is a good breakdown of the Yes/No arguments -- it will ultimately come down to how Polymarket defines "combat" -- https://discord.com/channels/710897173927297116/817444472009785366/1290308846543179802
abdendriel
9 months ago
Those aren’t the rules.
n/a
9 months ago
There’s no verified report of Israeli forces being deployed with the specific intent to neutralize threats or capture high-value targets in combat situations. Until there’s clear evidence of direct combat engagement, this market cannot justifiably resolve to “Yes”.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Consensus of credible reporting also accepted
0x64D754C44852208575F9500ED1E4F10e6AD1512A-1722659354305
9 months ago
No official confirmation from either israel or hezbollah. A few reports the media talking about intelligence missions. This market cant resolve to yes.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Operations is widely accepted as work. Combat operations as the work involved in combat.
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
Definition of ”combat”: fighting between armed forces
abdendriel
9 months ago
If someone told you there are AAA rated high yield bonds in prediction markets, that’s a scam.
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
If there is any justice, at least one of two things will happen: 1) Market will be resolved as No. 2) People will realize the scam and start bidding No.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat OPERATIONS includes various phases. Also, they destroyed Hezbollah outposts as reported by CNN
n/a
9 months ago
The literal definition of "Combat" is literally "Fighting between armed forces." I think that's all that needs to be said guys.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Entering Lebanon is not disputed, it is widely reported that military personnel entered Lebanon
n/a
9 months ago
While a combat operation may not always involve shooting, the market rules require evidence of Israeli troops entering Lebanese territory specifically for combat. The current evidence shows intelligence gathering and infrastructure targeting, not combat with enemy forces. Even if a combat operation can be broader, intent matters. If the actions were not undertaken with the intent to engage in combat, they do not meet the market’s definition.
abdendriel
9 months ago
CNN has reported that the Special Forces raids destroyed Hesbollah outposts
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
So far, there was only preparation for combat operations. It’s not yet decided whether there will be a combat operation at all, it could change any minute, however.
abdendriel
9 months ago
But Israel aren’t planning on invading 100 countries. Reporting consensus is that the raids are in preparation for an invasion of Lebanon
Michimax
9 months ago
Oh... here we go. The yes guys trying to make the Israeli infiltration mission of spies look like a ground combat operation... Well how many countries are on this planet? 195. I would say that at least in 100 of them Mossad agents have done missions. Were all of these considered ground combat operations?? I beg to differ.
abdendriel
9 months ago
No, it requires combat OPERATIONS. At the strategic level, a phase continue for years. Not all phases of combat include fighting between armed forces. Phases can, and usually do overlap, and sometimes can be planned for parallel execution, often as part of deception planning. Phases typically found in offensive military operations are: Preparation Intelligence gathering phase[1] Operations planning phase Logistics management phase Deception and counterintelligence phase Assembly phase“
n/a
9 months ago
While a combat operation may not always involve shooting, the market rules require evidence of Israeli troops entering Lebanese territory specifically for combat. The current evidence shows intelligence gathering and infrastructure targeting, not combat with enemy forces. Even if a combat operation can be broader, intent matters. If the actions were not undertaken with the intent to engage in combat, they do not meet the market’s definition.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Reconnaissance by special forces are the exact definition of combat OPERATIONS
abdendriel
9 months ago
AI isn’t the resolution source. Bar fights, street brawls are combat but so reasonably person would call that operations.
abdendriel
9 months ago
AI isn’t the resolution source. Bar fights, street brawls are combat but so reasonably person would call that operations.
n/a
9 months ago
Intent of operations: The reported Israeli incursions into Lebanon appear to be primarily focused on intelligence gathering, infrastructure targeting, and preparatory operations, rather than direct combat engagement as required by the market criteria. Lack of official confirmation: There is no official confirmation from Israel or Hezbollah regarding these operations, which is a key requirement for resolution according to the market rules. Ongoing nature of operations: The reported raids and intelligence gathering activities have been occurring for months, suggesting they are part of a prolonged campaign rather than a specific combat event within the specified timeframe. Credibility of sources: The reports rely heavily on anonymous sources and potentially biased reporting, without official verification from the parties involved Lack of clear combat evidence: There is no verifiable evidence of Israeli troops entering Lebanon specifically for combat operations as defined by the market criteria The reported activities do not meet the specific requirements outlined in the market criteria for combat operations. Therefore, based on the current evidence and the market's stated resolution criteria, the market should resolve to "No”.
abdendriel
9 months ago
That’s not the resolution source though
n/a
9 months ago
Ask any AI you want they're gonna say it should resolve to "No".
abdendriel
9 months ago
I don’t know anyone who considers “2 weeks ago” as recent days
JJJAY
9 months ago
Can you please explain to me how you deducted that this “small raids” happened between 18th to 30th of September from the words”recent days”?
abdendriel
9 months ago
As a favour to save you money on disputes, here’s CNN: “ Israeli special forces have carried out small raids into Lebanese territory in recent days as part of preparations for a potential ground offensive, two sources familiar with the matter said. Israeli commandos infiltrated Lebanese territory, targeting Hezbollah positions near the border to gather intelligence and destroy Hezbollah posts in the area, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military matters.” https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk?Date=20240930&Profile=cnnbrk&utm_content=1727701705&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#cm1oyu2yo00053b6mbx617w0l
abdendriel
9 months ago
Walk into a bar brawl. Are they conducting operations? In fact the special force targeted raids are more like combat operations
Michimax
9 months ago
When Israeli soldiers enter Lebanon and start fighting, then you might call yourselves winners.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The IDF?
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
This market has a volume of more than $890,000 and the (false) outcome was manipulated by one scammer.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Both WSJ and Telegraph report troop incursions and raids
Michimax
9 months ago
To the "YES" voters desperately searching for evidence, an air raid or espionage is not Ground Combat Operation.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The WSJ reports special forces launching targeted Raids into Lebanon
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
People are saying a solider would have been killed. Sorry to disappoint, it wasn’t combat operations, it was a drone strike. "The Lebanese army said on Monday that a soldier had been killed by an Israeli drone strike while driving through an army checkpoint in southern Lebanon.". Source: NYT
abdendriel
9 months ago
What they did is exactly combat operations
1111Heyheyhey
9 months ago
Don’t fight on combat operation definition look out full rules, troops on lebanon soil and comfirmed by israel and lebanon both will count to yes only.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Agreed there’s a reason the word operations is in there.
Car
9 months ago
"Combat Operation" doesnt have to include shooting: Combat Operations means planning or conducting specific offensive or defensive actions taken to (i) defeat an adversary’s military or other hostile forces or (ii) execute an attack on the United States. Combat Operations include tactical or operational actions, whether related to military, paramilitary, terrorist, intelligence, cyberwarfare or electronic warfare operations.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ At the strategic level, a phase continue for years. Not all phases of combat include fighting between armed forces. Phases can, and usually do overlap, and sometimes can be planned for parallel execution, often as part of deception planning. Phases typically found in offensive military operations are: Preparation Intelligence gathering phase[1] Operations planning phase Logistics management phase Deception and counterintelligence phase Assembly phase” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
🤺JustPunched
9 months ago
I think we have enough reporting around the date to be sufficient, but I kinda agree about combat operations. Seems like there has been no reporting that they were there to conduct combat operations.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ The basic model of the combat operations area process includes five phases[1] that seek to acquire targets and objectives, allocate and orient appropriate forces for successful engagement of the enemy, make decisions about doctrinal approach to the engagement, execute the plan by engaging in combat, and conduct post-combat intelligence assessment of the success or failure of the operation's plan.[2]” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
🤺JustPunched
9 months ago
I think we have enough reporting around the date to be sufficient, but I kinda agree about combat operations. Seems like there has been no reporting that they were there to conduct combat operations.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The WSJ article says it’s been going on for months as well as recently. The report says the raids are in preparation for the wider invasion. They just said today that the preparation activities for the invasion have now completed.
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
Not only this was not combat operation, they didn't even mention the EXACT date. Now seriously, is this a joke? Do you see any troops right now in Lebanon? This Pence mfer should pay for his theft.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ The basic model of the combat operations area process includes five phases[1] that seek to acquire targets and objectives, allocate and orient appropriate forces for successful engagement of the enemy, make decisions about doctrinal approach to the engagement”
abdendriel
9 months ago
The Combat Operations Process and the phases of the operations for your reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
abdendriel
9 months ago
The Combat Operations Process and the phases of the operations for your reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
abdendriel
9 months ago
Thankyou I was just thinking to put together this summary
Justifax
9 months ago
This market has nothing to do with Pence. That was unfortunate that so many people donated to him. It has to do with the truth: JPOST - Israeli forces conduct small-scale incursions into Lebanon - report https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-822515 WSJ - Israeli Special Forces Launch Raids Into Lebanon Ahead of Possible Ground Incursion - https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israeli-special-forces-launch-raids-into-lebanon-ahead-of-possible-ground-incursion-bf2fe94d TELEGRAPH: "Israeli special forces cross into Lebanon" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/30/israel-hezbollah-hamas-war-gaza-latest-news/ ALJAZAEERA -Israel raids three towns in southern Lebanon Our colleagues on the ground are reporting that the Israeli army launched raids on al-Abbassieh, Harouf and Bedias in southern Lebanon. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/30/israel-attacks-lebanon-live-israel-expands-strikes-on-beirut-as-105-killed HEZBO, the primary resolution for this market, confirms timing - https://x.com/ajarabic/status/1840407001639301552?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
And this is just straight out incorrect. There’s a consensus of credible reporting of Special Forces raids into Lebanon
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
As of September 30, 2024, Israeli forces have not yet conducted ground operations in Lebanon, despite intense aerial bombardments. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have carried out extensive airstrikes targeting Hezbollah positions across Lebanon, resulting in significant casualties and infrastructure damage. While there are preparations and mobilizations of Israeli troops along the northern border, indicating a potential for a ground incursion, no ground operations involving Israeli troops on Lebanese soil have been reported.
abdendriel
9 months ago
There’s another market for invasion. Fee free to bet accordingly.
maximian
9 months ago
There’s too little for an actual invasion, it’s a bluff for now, posture
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s worse for people living in Southern Lebanon.
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
If anything, No should have been higher than Yes. What a shitshow lmaooo
abdendriel
9 months ago
I wouldn’t bet that 1000’s of people dressed in swimwear standing next to a pool won’t touch the water until Dan Bilzerian arrives.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Israeli special forces have conducted targeted raids in southern Lebanon "in anticipation of a potential ground offensive that could begin as early as this week," several sources told the Wall Street Journal. These raids involved "incursions into Hezbollah tunnels along the border and have taken place recently as well as in the past few months, as part of a broader Israeli effort to diminish the military capabilities of the party along the Lebanese-Israeli border," the sources said. https://x.com/lorienttoday/status/1840704860309585922?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Telegraph stated that small incursions have been occurred based on an Israeli briefing. Then WSJ confirmed the special forces raids
abdendriel
9 months ago
This is not a Mossad undercover mission in Beirut. Special Forces targeted raids launched into Lebanon is the consensus of credible reporting.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Scroll down there’s plenty
Caligulas.dog
9 months ago
Which credible reporting? Care to link some sources
abdendriel
9 months ago
It would be a joke for IDF to stand on the border with their toes touching the blue line and not cross.
n/a
9 months ago
It would be a complete joke for this to resolve to "Yes".
abdendriel
9 months ago
This is not a Mossad undercover mission in Beirut. Special Forces targeted raids launched into Lebanon is the consensus of credible reporting.
abdendriel
9 months ago
And that’s exactly what happened
crow
9 months ago
Only ground operations involving troops on Lebanese soil will count.
abdendriel
9 months ago
I think that’s old news. There’s a consensus of credible reporting that they’ve been conducting raids
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
9 months ago
"Israel is yet undecided whether to conduct ground operation"
abdendriel
9 months ago
The right link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat operations includes multiple phases https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-30-2024/
abdendriel
9 months ago
Combat operations includes multiple phases https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-30-2024/
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
It's simple. 1) Did they do any combat operations? No, they only spied for intelligence. 2) Did this source mention exactly the date? No, and this market is timeframed. 3) Do you see any troops RIGHT NOW in Lebanon? No. I rest my case.
abdendriel
9 months ago
They’re preparing for an invasion and news came out just hours ago that the preparation is now complete.
Car
9 months ago
So, no time mentioned in all articles + no clear reason why they explored the tunnels. So far not enough to resolve to Y
abdendriel
9 months ago
Cuz when they announce it, it will be the next phase of combat operations that includes the invasion, which is another market
n/a
9 months ago
The Telegraph article cites an anonymous ‘Israeli official’ and an ‘Israeli intelligence source.’ Does that sound like a consensus of credible reporting to you? It also uses broad phrases like ‘targeting Hezbollah infrastructure’ and mentions ‘raids’ ahead of a broader ground invasion, but nothing about direct combat operations. If this really were the case, why hasn’t Israel come out and announced an official statement? Anyone can take an article and interpret it their own way, but an official confirmation from Israel is something I’d be completely fine losing this market on.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The WSJ appears to have gotten it from another source and Telegraph said it was in a briefing.
X9504
9 months ago
The problem is nowadays all media copy each other. The WSJ made a report and Times of Israel and Telegraph both cited that same report. Suddenly you have consensus
abdendriel
9 months ago
Someone posted way down in the thread… I think it came from here https://www.almayadeen.net/latestnews/2024/9/29/%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86--%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A8--%D8%BA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D9%83%D9%88%D8%AB but there could be more
Donkov
9 months ago
Source? @abdendriel
abdendriel
9 months ago
And Hezbollah confirmed already in fact
Donkov
9 months ago
It means either Hezbollah or Israel confirming would be used. Not both required.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Or yes when everyone thought it was just interest
n/a
9 months ago
Whoever bought a No when the pump brought it down to 20-30c is really lucky
abdendriel
9 months ago
The rules are pretty clear and they don’t say anything about battles. It only says combat operations and emphasise personnel crossing the border.
n/a
9 months ago
The rules explicitly state that the market will resolve to “Yes” if Israeli personnel enter Lebanese territory for combat operations. The intent behind these actions matters significantly—if the primary purpose is intelligence gathering or probing, then it doesn’t qualify as a combat operation under the market’s criteria. For those who think intelligence gathering counts as combat operations: the rules are pretty clear. Entering enemy territory just to gather intel or probe isn’t the same as entering for combat. If you’re counting every covert raid as combat, then by that logic, every recon mission would also be a battle, which it clearly isn’t.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Special operations can be carried out by special forces who do combat operations including those mentioned in the phases above
CYQ
9 months ago
Special Operations are not Combat Operations. What is your point?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Caroline Ellison was charged with conspiring to commit wire fraud. It’s a felony and it’s part of criminal Operations. Then again, what if you did targeted raids into a bank?
NotJustKen
9 months ago
So would you call it a combat operation if it stops at first phase or should it complete all 5 phases to be a "combat operation"?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Telegraph already reported this “
NotJustKen
9 months ago
Yes. This is so stupid and sentimental pump. I regret not having enough money to buy off their stupidity
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes. Sorry I didn’t bring this definition to your attention earlier
n/a
9 months ago
If that was the case this market would have shot up to "Yes" as soon as it was posted. Israeli military and intelligence have been aware of and working to address the threat posed by these tunnels for years.
abdendriel
9 months ago
There are activities in each phase. If it stops after phase 1, the activities carried out in phase 1 were still done.
NotJustKen
9 months ago
So would you call it a combat operation if it stops at first phase or should it complete all 5 phases to be a "combat operation"?
abdendriel
9 months ago
There’s a reason the rules mention combat operations and not combat alone
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ The basic model of the combat operations area process includes five phases[1] that seek to acquire targets and objectives, allocate and orient appropriate forces for successful engagement of the enemy…” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ The basic model of the combat operations area process includes five phases[1] that seek to acquire targets and objectives, allocate and orient appropriate forces for successful engagement of the enemy…” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
abdendriel
9 months ago
And this isn’t Mossad, it’s special forces. Similarly, when SEAL team 6 targets you in a raid, you’re not safe
Justifax
9 months ago
plural noun: raids a sudden attack on an enemy by troops, aircraft, or other armed forces in warfare.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Telegraph said this too. WSJ confirmed it in a “consensus of credible reporting” kinda way
Justifax
9 months ago
Yes, the headline is "Launch" which means its actively happening. For this market to resolve NO would be saying the WSJ is a liar. Please.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Remember when US officials said “they may have already started small incursions…”. This is what they were talking about
abdendriel
9 months ago
To be clear the WSJ article is not about undercover missions in Beirut in prep for the pager attack etc. It’s recent Raids Into Lebanon. US officials said days ago they may have been doing this
abdendriel
9 months ago
That was the briefing from days ago. This update is not about undercover missions but about RAIDS. Some people are even complaining that they were taking hostages
Mr.Damon
9 months ago
"The report claimed that Israel has sent undercover commandos “deep into the country” to carry out “sensitive intelligence missions,” quoting officials as saying that the military’s willingness to carry out daring missions sets it apart from other countries’ intelligence agencies and units." not combat operations
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yea they’re doing the raids to prepare for the big announcement.
Mr.Damon
9 months ago
"While Israel has not announced a ground incursion into Lebanon, there have been reports of incidents across the border ever since Hezbollah-led forces began attacking communities and military posts in northern Israel on October 8, purportedly to support Gaza amid the war against Hamas there."
abdendriel
9 months ago
Big respect and hope you earn on those Yes shares!
kekkone
9 months ago
I was wrong. Many were right. Congrats!
abdendriel
9 months ago
Yes shares you mean
ThisIsSparta
9 months ago
No should be at 95c already, lol. Easy 10%.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Good move
mr.ozi
9 months ago
For disclosure, I had 3k of 'No' until 26h ago when the news of those raids came out. I don't like being in dispute territory, so I backed out from this bet. It's funny that we have a second wave of reaction to the same news, just delayed by a day.
abdendriel
9 months ago
WSJ confirms the Telegraph report. That’s called consensus of credible reporting. The latest strike on Yemen comes as Israeli officials briefed that there had been a “limited” ground incursion into southern Lebanon, involving special forces troops." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/29/israel-hezbollah-war-lebanon-hamas-gaza-latest-news/
abdendriel
9 months ago
US officials came out of a meeting pissed off saying it may have already started. Telegraph outright stated that it did. Even No-holders think they’ve been doing this continuously since 2006.
Justifax
9 months ago
Raids are combat operations. These markets are largely resolved on headlines. wsj is the probably the most credible news org, and this has been confirmed by hezbollah. it's the entire point of this market to be a light version of invasion.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The article says “into southern Lebanon”. Disputed territory is another part
mr.ozi
9 months ago
This is a dispute territory. Does intelligence operation classify as a combat operation? I guess not, until they are engaged and start shooting. Let's see when more news comes.
abdendriel
9 months ago
They’ve been raiding Lebanon 🏴‍☠️
mr.ozi
9 months ago
This is a dispute territory. Does intelligence operation classify as a combat operation? I guess not, until they are engaged and start shooting. Let's see when more news comes.
abdendriel
9 months ago
And y’all thought I was spamming
abdendriel
9 months ago
They could, resolving this market
galba
9 months ago
Wouldn't Hezbollah play the victim card immediately?
abdendriel
9 months ago
It’s listed as a source in the rules of this market.
galba
9 months ago
Wouldn't Hezbollah play the victim card immediately?
abdendriel
9 months ago
*No holders
abdendriel
9 months ago
Why would US officials say Israel may have crossed the border already following their discussion with Israel about their plans? Funny how most of us believe it’s happened already, but Yes holders are now coming out of the woodwork at the mention of possible 50/50 resolution.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Why would US officials say Israel may have crossed the border already following their discussion with Israel about their plans? Funny how most of us believe it’s happened already, but Yes holders are now coming out of the woodwork at the mention of possible 50/50 resolution.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Invasion announcement is another market. They haven’t decided on the wider invasion yet, but like you rightly said, troops have been operating in Lebanon since 2006
kekkone
9 months ago
There's a lot of maybes against one definete NO by Jerusalem Post.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“ The latest strike on Yemen comes as Israeli officials briefed that there had been a “limited” ground incursion into southern Lebanon, involving special forces troops.” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/29/israel-hezbollah-war-lebanon-hamas-gaza-latest-news/
aced
9 months ago
Warmongers who are trying to link Israeli spies that have been gathering information since 2006 to military entering territory for combat operations are funny lol. Yestards, you are about to lose - move on to the November market
abdendriel
9 months ago
You mean Hezbollah listed as a resolution source?
aced
9 months ago
Warmongers who are trying to link Israeli spies that have been gathering information since 2006 to military entering territory for combat operations are funny lol. Yestards, you are about to lose - move on to the November market
abdendriel
9 months ago
Hezbollah said it happened. And they’re listed as a source in the rules. Telegraph also says Israel said it happened during a briefing.
abdendriel
9 months ago
With a news source reporting that the exact Yes condition has happened and the rest stating that the US reaction to talks with Israelis is that it may have happened, how can this resolve to No?
abdendriel
9 months ago
With a news source reporting that the exact Yes condition has happened and the rest stating that the US reaction to talks with Israelis is that it may have happened, how can this resolve to No?
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/endgameww3/status/1840617765637353621?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
The reporting you’re talking about points to Yes or Maybe.
kekkone
9 months ago
The whales might eat you but there’s no case for this to resolve yes with what’s been reported.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Consensus of credible sources is that it may have already happened. 1 source says it did happen. Burden of proof should be on No holders. Otherwise, you could say all news is possibly erroneous.
kekkone
9 months ago
Israel has not ”briefed” a British Newspaper about a ground incursion, leaving everyone else in the dark.
abdendriel
9 months ago
There’s no evidence or consensus that it’s a probable error. The consensus is that US officials came out of a meeting with Israeli officials saying that it seems it may have already happened. A mainstream reporting source reported that it has happened. The burden of proof is now on the No side. Which source listed in the rules is going report decisively that it didn’t happen?
kekkone
9 months ago
One tweet in arabic, one probable error from a British Newspaper. The evidence is not there. Nice volatility play though.
abdendriel
9 months ago
What’s the evidence that the Telegraph article is fake?
kekkone
9 months ago
Israel has not ”briefed” a British Newspaper about a ground incursion, leaving everyone else in the dark.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Paul Niki from the Telegraph is based in Israel. Reporters do get in contact with IDF and report on what they hear, which becomes a source of reporting. Consensus of credible reporting now is that US believes an incursion may have already been done. 1 source reported it has been. From your post, you seem to believe it was always happening. 50/50 resolution possible
kekkone
9 months ago
Israel has not ”briefed” a British Newspaper about a ground incursion, leaving everyone else in the dark.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Heard all of Halevi’s verbal briefings in Hebrew?
kekkone
9 months ago
Israel has not ”briefed” a British Newspaper about a ground incursion, leaving everyone else in the dark.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“limited” ground incursion into southern Lebanon, involving special forces troops." Sounds like combat ops if its troops doing an incursion
Justifax
9 months ago
The problem is nobody believes Hezbollah, as they are a known terrorist group that kills people
abdendriel
9 months ago
Can you share the source of hezbollah declaring they are thwarting the raids?
Remontada
9 months ago
So, we have US officials leaking this morning that "limited" cross border incursions may be occuring, and we have Hezbollah declaring they are thwarting such incursions. Remember also, raids are not as newsworthy as "full invasion", "Sa'ar In", "Hezbollah new leader". We have to dig through the noise.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Anyone can interpret this briefing? https://videoidf.azureedge.net/de0e8cf9-6aa4-4705-bd5d-8783aa71e3a4
abdendriel
9 months ago
If someone can find the Israeli briefing mentioned in the Telegraph article, this is resolved
peasant
9 months ago
Guess “combat operations” is going to be doing a LOT of work here
abdendriel
9 months ago
According to the Telegraph, Israeli officials report this has already happened
abdendriel
9 months ago
"The latest strike on Yemen comes as Israeli officials briefed that there had been a “limited” ground incursion into southern Lebanon, involving special forces troops." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/29/israel-hezbollah-war-lebanon-hamas-gaza-latest-news/
abdendriel
9 months ago
"The latest strike on Yemen comes as Israeli officials briefed that there had been a “limited” ground incursion into southern Lebanon, involving special forces troops." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/29/israel-hezbollah-war-lebanon-hamas-gaza-latest-news/
abdendriel
9 months ago
Respect
General.William.T.Sherman
9 months ago
I have sold my no’s and filling yes’s. Still not fully convinced Israel is moving in within 4 weeks. But if the market is giving it a 50% chance, you have to lean yes. They will continue to move assets to the border and that will keep the bid there. The rules of this market that it’s any territory of Lebanon is also making me lean yes with odds down this much this quickly.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Respect
General.William.T.Sherman
9 months ago
I have sold my no’s and filling yes’s. Still not fully convinced Israel is moving in within 4 weeks. But if the market is giving it a 50% chance, you have to lean yes. They will continue to move assets to the border and that will keep the bid there. The rules of this market that it’s any territory of Lebanon is also making me lean yes with odds down this much this quickly.
abdendriel
9 months ago
“We have momentum. Israel is winning…together we will fight and together we will win” https://x.com/israelipm/status/1840124607094837281?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/pulseofpal/status/1840059021211922619?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
You should be able to sell. I found if you di a market order, it seems to work better with round numbers.
FamilyCapital
9 months ago
only me can not sell shares in this market?
abdendriel
9 months ago
US Defence Secretary told Yoav Gallant that US have their backs no matter what.
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/media_043/status/1840057217367568890?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/media_043/status/1840057217367568890?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Israeli attacks contribute to control of which planes can land at Lebanese airport. https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-822208
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/idf/status/1840039832661155968?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Sirens going off in Tel Aviv. IDF telling the world that militants with rockets across the border are still a threat
abdendriel
9 months ago
Sirens going off in Tel Aviv. IDF telling the world that militants with rockets across the border are still a threat
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF announcement on Operations on the Northern Front coming up: https://x.com/idf/status/1840014737049801013?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://youtu.be/1DaZC_tNo_Q?si=CNw9Q8aC6Cqg1CL-
abdendriel
9 months ago
Tanks 2 min away from the town, ceasefire off the table, IDF chief declared the air strikes are prep for boots on the ground, angry Bibi speech. Are the odds of this market really similar to those of the US election?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Math quiz: the nearest border town is 2km away. A typical tank can go 60 km/hr. How long does it take for the tank to get to the town?
abdendriel
9 months ago
“The West are naive to believe in the idealistic fantasy of ceasefire. In the Middle East, we kill our enemies.” - simultaneous thoughts of both Netanyahu and Khamenei
abdendriel
9 months ago
Why wait for Iranian forces to reach the border? IDF are already telling border towns to evacuate.
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/cnnbrk/status/1839994527404183829?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
tbh I have a feeling IDF and Mossad have solid evidence but they can’t reveal the source.
palisade
9 months ago
tbh i have a feeling hes dead
abdendriel
9 months ago
But rockers still came out of Lebanon so the evacuated Israelis still can’t return
denizz
9 months ago
By targeting Hezbollah’s leadership in a major Beirut airstrike on Friday, Israel is hoping to avoid launching a ground invasion in Lebanon, a senior Israeli official told reporters on Friday. The strike targeting Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah and other top officials in the terror group huddling at a main command center in Beirut’s Dahiyeh suburb was aimed at breaking Hezbollah, the senior official explained
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240928-dead-at-64-hezbollah-leader-hassan-nasrallah-lived-a-clandestine-life-on-the-run
abdendriel
9 months ago
But if they’re no longer hunting him, they probably have intel that they don’t have to anymore
Justifax
9 months ago
IDF has a very long history of exaggerating the truth, and Hezbollah might be trying to trick or embarrass them. That said, I wouldn't pay more than 3c for this.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Resolution source doesn’t mention Hezbollah
VaithunPhuSang-Fabric
9 months ago
if hezbollar will not notify for nasrallah to die, the market will result 50-50 😂
abdendriel
9 months ago
Rules don’t mention Hezbollah as a source. Anyway Hezbollah will probably use vengeance for his death as justification for further strikes.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Mossad: https://x.com/mossadil/status/1839727363380146374?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
How can his death be confirmed? They can’t reach him but their pagers are busted
abdendriel
9 months ago
Can’t be bothered to find the exact video when he was with the IDF
abdendriel
9 months ago
Conricus said in Oct last year, something like “we will change the Middle East. And it will be better for Israel and it will be better for the Palestinians, but there will not be… Hamas. But that is all..to come”
abdendriel
9 months ago
Conricus said in Oct last year, something like “we will change the Middle East. And it will be better for Israel and it will be better for the Palestinians, but there will not be… Hamas. But that is all..to come”
abdendriel
9 months ago
"You hear the jets overhead; we have been striking all day. This is both to prepare the ground for your possible entry and to continue degrading Hezbollah," Lt Gen Herzi Halevi said.
Car
9 months ago
Killing Nasrallah is like their final mission
abdendriel
9 months ago
The Israeli tanks waiting at the border were there just in case the air strike did not happen. Now they’ll pack up and go home..
Car
9 months ago
Killing Nasrallah is like their final mission
abdendriel
9 months ago
Back out as in forfeit control of border towns?
Car
9 months ago
Now that Nasrallah is dead, Hezbollah will back out of the war.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Car? What do you think of Nasrallah?
Justifax
9 months ago
car does this scam a lot ... he's done it in several markets. unless you're very familiar with this scam, you will lose your money to him
abdendriel
9 months ago
Suspect the diplomats walking out of his speech would’ve been a. All to action for Bibi. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0J2QdDbelmY
abdendriel
9 months ago
When someone decides who can enter and exit an area, they control it.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Making $1000 = take profit or wait and hope for another month
Car
9 months ago
Another day another day without invasion
abdendriel
9 months ago
Bibi just got $8.7B. Will he wait for Hezbollah to re-appoint the eliminated commanders, man the tunnels, reload missiles and set traps all over the border villages?
abdendriel
9 months ago
They will continue discussions on how to reach their goals. Which includes usage of the new $8B.
scottilicious
9 months ago
CNN: "n a statement released Thursday night, the prime minister’s office said that “Israel shares the aims of the U.S.-led initiative of enabling people along our northern border to return safely and securely to their homes.” “Israel appreciates the US efforts,” the statement said, and promised that discussions would continue “in the coming days.”
abdendriel
9 months ago
Remember this? https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/15/politics/biden-60-minutes-interview-gaza-israel
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://www.newarab.com/news/explainer-will-israel-carry-out-invasion-south-lebanon
abdendriel
9 months ago
Where’s the Adam’s Apple?
abdendriel
9 months ago
IDF made a video showing exactly which spots just across the border Hezbollah are hiding arms. “Enough is enough” - IDF. Watch from 3:27 https://x.com/idf/status/1839251492655571063?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Israel invaded and controlled parts of Lebanon in 1978 and 1982.
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/timesofisrael/status/1839291995900227922?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
The lengthy and intricately planned pager attack would be wasted if they gave time for Hezbollah to regroup. They timed the pagers now for a reason
abdendriel
9 months ago
If Israel had an appetite for ceasefire, where’s the Gaza one?
abdendriel
9 months ago
New Middle East: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/16/new-new-middle-east-israel-region-saudi-relations-fututre/ — Boots https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/25/israel-hamas-war-latest-news-hezbollah-64/ — New Phase https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/gallant-says-israels-focus-has-moved-to-northern-front-as-new-phase-of-war-begins/
Donkov
9 months ago
source?
abdendriel
9 months ago
“The New Middle East”, “Next Phase”, “Boots” - our thoughts become our words and our words become our actions and our actions become who we are.
abdendriel
9 months ago
US-centric world thinks that whatever the US asks for will happen
Justifax
9 months ago
After all this time, you'd think we'd learn that 90% of the news about 'ceasefire' is likely hopium BS.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Maybe he’s IDF, tying up his bootlaces already
HaterzLoserz
9 months ago
https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9303007232/hDB0D547F/photo-caption-me-after-every-terror-attack-isit-time-for-the-crusade-yet-memegeneratornet
abdendriel
9 months ago
Netanyahu dismisses reports of imminent Lebanon ceasefire and tells Israeli military to fight "with full force" -CNN
abdendriel
9 months ago
How old is she and did she grow up in China? I don’t think puberty blockers and gender reassignment was a thing in China back then.
Gena🐊
9 months ago
Do hormones change the bone structure? No!. This should be at 3c, because there is a small chance we don't get any answer and a small chance we get a wrong answer. She is 100% a girl, I know because I'm an expert of finding and avoiding trans in classified ads
abdendriel
9 months ago
I feel like only a girl who’s playing with you would post this: https://x.com/gummybear1771/status/1839192607517515816?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
Here comes the tweet barrage
abdendriel
9 months ago
1. Maybe polymarket is sampling their user demographic (Chinese test) 2. The person wants ppl to read all her tweets
Scoobs
9 months ago
What the hell is going on here
abdendriel
9 months ago
Has anyone analysed his intrastate tweeting patterns?
BrokenIKey
9 months ago
Nope. He's actually busy doing some stuff today. Obviously he'll still post more than 199 times.
abdendriel
9 months ago
She tweeted that when she went out, her deepest impression was when someone asked other if she was trans. Can’t help but think that the question was unexpected for her, revealing the whole joke.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Huobi doesn’t have to prove it, just has to announce it. From her tweets it looks like she met the CEO of polymarket and they decided to end the speculation through this market.
Jessethecook69
9 months ago
guys, what if they use Huobi KYC to prove that on the ID she is man/woman?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Still has his mojo?
Donkov
9 months ago
Its a man, baby
abdendriel
9 months ago
Just wait, he needs some sleep and he’ll wake up to a barrage of responses on his prior day of epic tweeting
abdendriel
9 months ago
Where’s the Adam’s Apple? It’s even more prominent in skinny guys
abdendriel
9 months ago
This is just a way for her to make money as the ultimate insider
abdendriel
9 months ago
Betting against the mainstream when you believe something. Lesson learned from the subprime crisis. And Ackman!
DeucePapi
9 months ago
You fucks really gaslit me. I believed I was retarded for thinking she would go to prison.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The possibility of no prison time is so surprising that it made news
XiJinPing
9 months ago
anyone know why No prison is so high? why it pump?
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://x.com/reyencu/status/1838615020906688847?s=46
abdendriel
9 months ago
The articles stemmed from tweets about the polymarket odds actually. MSM found shocking enough that she could skip jail that it was newsworthy
0xc26E37C84509c72b58171bEc9286fa83c73f5366-1719543164274
9 months ago
Am I crazy here or do the recent articles stating Ellison is likely to get no prison time make it sound like the prosecutors didn't have enough info to get a guilty verdict on SBF. There was tons of evidence SBF stole billions. Ellison's testimony helped with the conviction, but without her SBF would have been found guilty anyway.
abdendriel
9 months ago
The recent articles make the Judge even less likely to be a complete pushover.
0xc26E37C84509c72b58171bEc9286fa83c73f5366-1719543164274
9 months ago
Am I crazy here or do the recent articles stating Ellison is likely to get no prison time make it sound like the prosecutors didn't have enough info to get a guilty verdict on SBF. There was tons of evidence SBF stole billions. Ellison's testimony helped with the conviction, but without her SBF would have been found guilty anyway.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Do you think the emotional stress of being a criminal is sufficient punishment for the crime itself, as long as you can tell the story to the cops?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Where is Elizabeth Holmes today? Pretending technology worked when it didn’t got her 11 years. Now, Ellison straight out stole money from retail investors and made fake balance sheets.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Prosecutors make it clear in the sea that they won’t charge her for further crimes but no promise of sentencing
Eube
9 months ago
I'm guessing that Caroline Ellison has struck a plea deal with the Department of Justice.
abdendriel
9 months ago
To clarify, prosecutors are NOT asking for no prison time. They have no sentencing recommendation. It’s Ellison’s attorneys who are asking for that.
jayminho
9 months ago
A lot of people claiming “ohh the prosecutors asked for leniency” lol. Pal. That’s like bargaining a car.. it’s advertised for 10k, you bring down to 8k , seller will get pissed , will not do it, however you can , maybe, deal 9k.. that’s it. Her defense team asking leniency it’s to bring down and try negotiate a 60 months sentence to a 48 months.. that’s it. That’s all. Standard move.
abdendriel
9 months ago
A few months won’t ruin her life, a blip like CZ’s.
Master-bettor
9 months ago
i have a tingly feeling in my heart that tells me she'll be in jail
abdendriel
9 months ago
Before getting caught: “none of this non-hierarchical bullshit…there should be vicious power struggles for higher ranks”. Then after getting caught: *cry*cry*cry*. Judge has seen this over and over.
abdendriel
9 months ago
If a thief could skip jail by recounting the details of the heist (if they got caught) there would be a lot more thieves.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Judge Kaplan still has to sentence Gary Wang and Nishad Singh. Ellison’s sentence will be a precedent. If the only white person out of the 3 remaining accomplices walk free while the others are in prison, Kaplan would be in shambles. If they all walk free that’s unacceptable too. It’s gonna be varying degrees of jail time for each of them
JoebamaBiden
9 months ago
Judges are buying No
abdendriel
9 months ago
Kaplan still has to sentence Gary Wang and Nishad Singh who also cooperated. Ellison’s sentence is going to be a precedent for the other two. All 3 remaining accomplices are likely to get varying jail terms depending on their culpability.
DeucePapi
9 months ago
Imagine the headline: CEO of FTX Gets No Prison Time
abdendriel
9 months ago
You had to ask what a Google doc was, but managed to get a USDC wallet
Eridpnc
9 months ago
Hello guys My name is Lewis Kaplan and unfortunately I will not be available to play this market tomorrow, as I have work at like 3:00 PM. Look forward to chatting with y'all later!!!
abdendriel
9 months ago
Coin flip to determine how many years you mean
mango-lassi
9 months ago
I heard the judges would be using a coin flip to decide the outcome so I went with NO
abdendriel
9 months ago
Correction: “not to charge her for additional crimes above the ones she admitted to”. She’s still charged with 7 felonies with a guideline of 110 years for defrauding the public
abdendriel
9 months ago
Exactly. The plea deal itself explicitly states that they can’t promise any sentence or even recommendation of sentence. They only promised not to charge her for the 7 she admitted to. And how can she ask for time served if she was never in custody?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Exactly. The plea deal itself explicitly states that they can’t promise any sentence or even recommendation of sentence. They only promised not to charge her for the 7 she admitted to. And how can she ask for time served if she was never in custody?
fate
9 months ago
If the government originally intended to give her no prison time, they would have offered her immunity.
abdendriel
9 months ago
From the actual plea deal: “It is understood that the sentence to be imposed upon the defendant is within the sole discretion of the Court, This Office cannot, and does not, make any promise of representation as to what sentence the defendant will receive, and will not recommend any specific sentence to the Court.” The deal was if she pleaded guilty to 7 felonies, they wouldn’t charge her for more, except tax fraud.
abdendriel
9 months ago
She’ll be Crypto Anna Delvey
jayminho
9 months ago
I think if she gets jail time it’s clearly a sign of this uber sexist chauvinist patriarchal society , women are not meant to go to jail. No matter what.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Judge Kaplan will unlikely make himself a non-factor by just giving everyone what they asked for. He’s not a waiter asking for attorneys to order from a menu.
GrumpdaGump
9 months ago
Bernie Madoff's former prosecutor saying no jail time: https://x.com/coinage_media/status/1838326091024420933
abdendriel
9 months ago
Once she gets a lenient jail sentence it will resolve.
BAM
9 months ago
sucks we gotta wait until december 31st for market resolve
abdendriel
9 months ago
“Her sentence will likely be about two-years in the slammer for her role in the failed crypto exchange FTX, says Carl Volz, a Chicago-based securities attorney who has defended crypto clients.“
abdendriel
9 months ago
Begging for leniency vs a 110 year guideline? Even 1 year would be lenient. Check out US v Spoutz where Judge Kaplan sentenced Spoutz to 41 months for falsifying docs on a piece of art. Same guilty plea, even bigger letter from reputable people begging for leniency - still got 41 months in jail.
jayminho
9 months ago
A lot of people claiming “ohh the prosecutors asked for leniency” lol. Pal. That’s like bargaining a car.. it’s advertised for 10k, you bring down to 8k , seller will get pissed , will not do it, however you can , maybe, deal 9k.. that’s it. Her defense team asking leniency it’s to bring down and try negotiate a 60 months sentence to a 48 months.. that’s it. That’s all. Standard move.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Judge Kaplan rejected time served for Guantanamo Bay detainees in past cases. He won’t consider Ellison’s novella writing and staying at home with parents as time served just because she’s sad.
BallzToTheWalz
10 months ago
What happens when she gets time served? This seems like another market begging for disputes
abdendriel
9 months ago
Has Kaplan ever sentenced someone to house arrest only? He even rejected Guantanamo bay detainees’ request for time served
jayminho
9 months ago
one thing is not clear here, does house arrest counts as jail time ?
abdendriel
9 months ago
Judge Kaplan presided over US v Spoutz. “ Spoutz pled guilty in the case of US v. Spoutz to one count of wire fraud related to the sale of falsely attributed artwork accompanied by forged provenance documents... Dozens of character letters from Spoutz's friends, family, colleagues and clients written on his behalf begging for leniency were presented to the court including letters from former New York Yankees… Spoutz was sentenced by the Honorable Lewis A. Kaplan in United States District Court for the Southern District of New York to 41 months in federal prison”. And that’s just 1 count of wire fraud for faking a piece of art.
abdendriel
9 months ago
CZ got 4 months. It was a blip. That’s leniency, a short stint in white collar low security prison where she can finish her novella.
abdendriel
9 months ago
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/lewis-kaplan-nonsense-judge-overseeing-trumps-federal-defamation/story?id=106402597
abdendriel
9 months ago
Judge Kaplan is also doing the Trump trials. They’re calling him the “no-nonsense” judge who isn’t swayed by the media.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Judge Kaplan is also doing the Trump trials. They’re calling him the “no-nonsense” judge who isn’t swayed by the media.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Poor girl. Teacher’s pet is going to get a wake-up call. University admissions tactics like volunteering and writing novellas aren’t going to excuse you from a felony sentence in the grown-up judicial system.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Depends on your time zone. It’s on 24th
Barfly
9 months ago
Does anyone know what time the sentencing is today?
abdendriel
9 months ago
She’d be better off serving a few months in low security white collar prison and telling her story, having a NFLX about her. If she didn’t do time, she’d be a poster child for inequality and that will be thrown in her face every time she does any public appearance.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Dunno what strategy her attorneys were employing when disclosing that she was working on a novella. Low security white collar prison won’t interfere with that, it might give her some time and inspiration to make it better
abdendriel
9 months ago
Hope no-ones making the same mistake as I did, buying the wrong side. It’s a double negative unlike the other market.
Pump
9 months ago
it is obvious, I mean its not 100% bet, but definitely not a 50/50
abdendriel
9 months ago
If Kaplan doesn’t believe paying back stolen money excuses a thief from prison, why would finding a new boyfriend, writing novellas, teaching English excuse anything? Telling the truth in court is a baseline expectation.
abdendriel
9 months ago
"A thief who takes his loot to Las Vegas and successfully bets the stolen money is not entitled to a discount on the sentence by using his Las Vegas winnings to pay back what he stole." -Judge Kaplan on SBF. Judge Kaplan will be consistent with thief #2, ratting on Thief #1 after being caught doesn’t absolve crime.
abdendriel
9 months ago
"A thief who takes his loot to Las Vegas and successfully bets the stolen money is not entitled to a discount on the sentence by using his Las Vegas winnings to pay back what he stole." -Judge Kaplan on SBF. Judge Kaplan will be consistent with thief #2, ratting on Thief #1 after being caught doesn’t absolve crime.
abdendriel
9 months ago
In the Enron scandal, lenient meant single digit years
abdendriel
9 months ago
No, she pleaded guilty on 7 counts of felony. Confessed not innocent.
TimeQuestion
9 months ago
Innocent of all charges until proven otherwise.
abdendriel
9 months ago
Why is this a debate? She’s hardly spent any time in custody. Testifying as a witness and getting rejected from volunteering jobs doesn’t count as time served.
BallzToTheWalz
10 months ago
What happens when she gets time served? This seems like another market begging for disputes
abdendriel
10 months ago
Could’ve just bet yes
Kermit
10 months ago
We'll all either be very entertained and have meme material for years, or we'll make a little money. Either way it's a win-win. Can't decide which I'd rather have. Debate would be better for the States and essentially the whole world, but who doesn't like winning a bet? If only we could have both.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Rules are agnostic of debate length. If the candidates were shown arguing at a live sporting event, they would have debated on a live broadcast.
FilthyAnimal
10 months ago
What happens if the debate is cancelled midway due to unforeseen circumstances and doesn’t complete? What if one of them walks off the set? What if they decide to finish/restart at a later date, I would imagine it should resolve as No as the definition/rule refers to September 10th specifically.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Mics will be muted, she won’t have to deal with interruptions, even though her campaign her hoping he’d interrupt. She’ll try it and the media will spin it in her favour. If she quits, she’s just proving she can’t do it.
Kermit
10 months ago
This debate will either make or break Kamala Harris' campaign. If she's successful her numbers will soar, but if she doesn't do well it will sink her campaign. She must be able to improvise quickly and humourously with wit to compete with Trump and must have material other than her famous "I'm speaking" quip. This debate is extremely dangerous for her candidacy, so she has to out-Trump Trump without appearing like every man's screeching ex-wife.
abdendriel
10 months ago
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4863963-how-to-watch-trump-harris-debate/
abdendriel
10 months ago
One good trade doesn’t need to actually resolve in your direction either. You’ve got a few days before the debate to pump the No to make a healthy profit. All you need is to convince a few more people to provide some No liquidity
CansGonzalez
10 months ago
Just bought more NO at these insane prices.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Trump thinks Harris’s interview was weak. Harris thinks Trump is scared. Both agreed to the rules. Both think they’ll beat the other. ABC can’t wait to broadcast the event of the year. The world wants to see it. The only ones who don’t want it to happen are the polymarket no holders now
abdendriel
10 months ago
Train wreck will be during the debate
CansGonzalez
10 months ago
The train wreck will unravel this week. Sept 10th will be debate-free. Mark it.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Quitting is political suicide. Debate outcomes can be spun by either side but quitting is just putting yourself in the spotlight in a negative light
CoconutsForTrump
10 months ago
There is no way Kamela shows up to this. She will get sick with covid and "reschedule"
abdendriel
10 months ago
Unique as of the name. Trump and Kamala are more unique. So many people called Harris or Donald
Grrrenouille
10 months ago
Why is Harris referred to by her first name and not Trump? I'm sure it's unintentional, but it's not great
abdendriel
10 months ago
She’ll look worse if she pulls out than if she just went ahead as she is. No matter how the debate goes, both sides with have their favourite clips to share. But if she pulls out, the whole discourse will be about her failure.
CansGonzalez
10 months ago
Of course, it's not her style. She likes to cancel things last minute. This is actually more bullish "No" news... I'm buying more shares.s.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Yea, more liquidity for No’s wouldn’t be bad. No holders can have an out and Yes holders can double down.
abdendriel
10 months ago
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/03/poll-dems-boosted-gop-shaken-as-harris-trump-race-is-joined/74995919007/
abdendriel
10 months ago
“ Kamala Harris heads into Trump debate with lead, rising enthusiasm” - USA Today headline
abdendriel
10 months ago
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/03/poll-dems-boosted-gop-shaken-as-harris-trump-race-is-joined/74995919007/
abdendriel
10 months ago
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/03/poll-dems-boosted-gop-shaken-as-harris-trump-race-is-joined/74995919007/
abdendriel
10 months ago
The funny thing is nobody doubts this happened anymore
abdendriel
10 months ago
The drone pilot
BlackSky123
10 months ago
I would like to congratulate the yes chads who bought for less than 2 cents. Slava Ukraini.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Instead of disputing, why not spend your money on collecting interest on musk tweets.
Lkeprfuh
10 months ago
Clearly early proposal, will be disputed again.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Market resolves by credible sources. WSJ reports the drone was destroyed by detonation
cozywild
10 months ago
The drones were destroyed, guys
abdendriel
10 months ago
The videos are verified by BBC Verify. WSJ says at least one detonated above the plant
cozywild
10 months ago
The primary resolution source for this market will be a consensus of credible reporting. Do whatever you want with that.
abdendriel
10 months ago
WSJ says it detonated above the plant. If the pilot was able to detonate it, it wasn’t intercepted. That’s how drones are meant to work.
boops
10 months ago
The mass media information is more significant. And they all say the drones were intercepted. Just like the Venezuela president elections case. Yes voters still have a month. I think it would be fair.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Not trying to make anyone feel bad. Hopefully it’s true that no-one was hurt.
x4839F00491B7b5E0Ad83c28A3BeDd0aFCB9A6D20
10 months ago
Lol, Russian nationalists desperately trying to claim Moscow wasn’t hit by Ukraine, while holding yes shares. Your money speaks louder than your national pride 🤣
abdendriel
10 months ago
It’s now clear that the attack happened on-time, on-target, on-headline-of-major-news-outlets, on-BBC-Verify-video.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Who can verify Ukraine’s claim if they did claim responsibility? We might as well not resolve markets then
abdendriel
10 months ago
Even if Zelenskyy says he was a the pilot of that one drone, it’s still a Ukrainian claim. Who
abdendriel
10 months ago
Even if Zelenskyy says he was a the pilot of that one drone, it’s still a Ukrainian claim. Who
Fred19999
10 months ago
Show me a shred of evidence day Ukraine operated these drones, and not the US or Russia
abdendriel
10 months ago
Who knows if the war is really between Ukraine and Russia?
Fred19999
10 months ago
Ukraine has not claimed responsibility for this attack. It could have come from anyone.
abdendriel
10 months ago
They’re not quoting Moscow in fact. They’re just stating it in the headline of the article.
Fred19999
10 months ago
Show me a shred of evidence day Ukraine operated these drones, and not the US or Russia
abdendriel
10 months ago
Not needed to resolve this. Credible sources are reporting it as a Ukrainian drone attack. Source is from credible sources, not one of us
Fred19999
10 months ago
Show me a shred of evidence day Ukraine operated these drones, and not the US or Russia
abdendriel
10 months ago
There’s the video mentioned by BBC Verify. WSJ reported it as detonating. No credible source is going to name that video “falling debris, drone intercepted”
abdendriel
10 months ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/yTlokZRvwjw?si=yum-QHzkTFm1sk3N
abdendriel
10 months ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/yTlokZRvwjw?si=yum-QHzkTFm1sk3N
abdendriel
10 months ago
Yea or trying to make Yes cheaper so they can get a bigger bet on something that already happened
Tories4Harris
10 months ago
What is known: Ukraine launched an attack on Moscow and hit their targets before this market closed. A Moscow oil refinery was struck. Videos show a drone hitting this target. BBC News verified these videos as legitimate. Anyone telling you to buy No is trying to scam you into buying a decided market where they can sell their no shares for a quick profit.
abdendriel
10 months ago
@wat Video posted by Russians already disputed it
abdendriel
10 months ago
To say that the drone was intercepted would be like saying that Trump was assassinated. WSJ reports it as detonating over the plant, which is how drones work when they’re working.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Harder to enlist soldiers if you admit you can’t defend your capitol
Fred19999
10 months ago
Russian MoD confirmed it was debris
abdendriel
10 months ago
Damage was reported by WSJ to be caused by detonation, not falling debris. If a drone can receive a signal to detonate at the right time, it wasn’t intercepted.
abdendriel
10 months ago
To say that the drone was intercepted would be like saying that Trump was assassinated. WSJ reports it as detonating over the plant, which is how drones work when they’re working.
abdendriel
10 months ago
To say that the drone was intercepted would be like saying that Trump was assassinated. WSJ reports it as detonating over the plant, which is how drones work when they’re working.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Key words is in the WSJ report are “at least one” and “detonated”. Falling debris is different from a bomb detonating
abdendriel
10 months ago
“ Ukraine struck a major oil refinery in Moscow and other targets across Russia in one of its largest aerial barrages since the start of Russia’s invasion, expanding a campaign of drone attacks on energy facilities and further highlighting the vulnerability of strategic infrastructure deep inside Russia. Russia’s defense ministry said on Sunday that its air defenses had intercepted or shot down more than 150 drones in 15 regions. At least one of them detonated over a major refinery in Moscow” -WSJ
abdendriel
10 months ago
“ Ukraine struck a major oil refinery in Moscow and other targets across Russia in one of its largest aerial barrages since the start of Russia’s invasion, expanding a campaign of drone attacks on energy facilities and further highlighting the vulnerability of strategic infrastructure deep inside Russia. Russia’s defense ministry said on Sunday that its air defenses had intercepted or shot down more than 150 drones in 15 regions. At least one of them detonated over a major refinery in Moscow” -WSJ
abdendriel
10 months ago
You can see from the video that the pilot is still guiding it
LCWallaby
10 months ago
Lets clear this up: ""Yes" if a missile or drone launched by the Ukrainian armed forces strikes Moscow or any target within the municipality" It struck its target. End of story
abdendriel
10 months ago
A really slow and controlled one where it exploded only on contact with the plant
LCWallaby
10 months ago
Lets clear this up: ""Yes" if a missile or drone launched by the Ukrainian armed forces strikes Moscow or any target within the municipality" It struck its target. End of story
abdendriel
10 months ago
There’s a difference between credible reporting and credible reporting of Russia’s claims. Especially when Russia first claimed no damage..until the video came out and then claimed the missile defence system was working as expected on 100% of the drones. But there’s already a video out on drines slowly descending on the plant and exploding
abdendriel
10 months ago
Yes, videos of the drone slowly descending onto the plant and exploding, the way drones are meant to work. If it was shot down it would’ve exploded in mid air with debris landing on the plant, scratching the paint
Fav1
10 months ago
There are several videos from different angles with direct hit. Reality is disappointing, isn't it?
abdendriel
10 months ago
Credible sources report that Russia claims they stopped the Moscow attack with no damage. It doesn’t verify the claim, it only reports that that’s what Russia claims. Clearly videos already show damage so their credibility in claims about their own competence has been called into question
dreamer
10 months ago
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/01/g-s1-20509/russia-downed-drones-in-ukrainian-attack#:~:text=Moscow%20Mayor%20Sergei%20Sobyanin%20said,into%20the%20heart%20of%20Russia. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-01/fire-at-moscow-oil-refinery-as-russia-downs-158-ukrainian-drones https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-01/fire-at-moscow-oil-refinery-as-russia-downs-158-ukrainian-drones All the sources here corroborate that the drone was shot down and the fire was caused by the debris.
abdendriel
10 months ago
“ BBC Verify has examined and verified videos posted on social media which show explosions at all three locations. In the footage, fires appear to have subsequently broken out at Konakovo Power Station and the Moscow refinery.” -BBC
abdendriel
10 months ago
If Anderson Cooper needs to fly to Moscow to see the damage himself for this to resolve Yes, how did all the other war markets resolve? There’s footage and news outlets will report it.
abdendriel
10 months ago
What we’re observing are conversations between all Yes-believers trying to do last minute swing trading in both directions on an event that already happened
abdendriel
10 months ago
No holders are saying it’s from the Iraq war in an attempt to liquidate
Kirrilos
10 months ago
https://x.com/VyshnyaOstap/status/1830092157404807299/video/2 It’s video from 2023
abdendriel
10 months ago
There are 2 refineries
diddy
10 months ago
They got the wrong city omg
abdendriel
10 months ago
If bearish, why not buy No? But be careful because those No’s might not be liquid later. Better just wait for cheaper Yes’s. But don’t buy Yes now, not enough liquidity - if you only get a small position, nearish comments won’t be credible. Gotta wait for a cheaper and Yes position with more liquidity
Donkov
10 months ago
Be mindful of the dispute.
abdendriel
10 months ago
I’m tempted, I have a chance to buy more Yes’s at an even better price given the dispute
abdendriel
10 months ago
Not everyday ppl get a chance to bet on sure things. That’s why the last chance if volatility here is being milked
abdendriel
10 months ago
Yes bulls waiting for the dispute to get another cheaper entry point before doubling down.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Yes bulls waiting for the dispute to get another cheaper entry point before doubling down.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Don’t worry, you’ll get another Yes entry point
Donkov
10 months ago
Sell while you can. This will be disputed
abdendriel
10 months ago
Or the other way around
MarinaAF
10 months ago
Someone once said UMA scams are a forced transfer of wealth from emotional YES punters to wealthy NO buyers.
abdendriel
10 months ago
What does that do tho?
MarinaAF
10 months ago
If you're fully invested, just survive, hold your NO positions and do not capitulate.
abdendriel
10 months ago
No holders dumping. Question now is whether there’s enough liquidity between 90+ and 100 to make a meaningful profit. Already see doubtful comments from earlier without their No’s
abdendriel
10 months ago
How does this resolve if Starlink stays online in Brazil?
abdendriel
10 months ago
He’s riding the waves
gun
10 months ago
bro car, why are you commenting all day? there is more fulfilling this to do in life
abdendriel
10 months ago
Why? Is a high profile billionaire surrounded by press going to run?
Bwrbouere
10 months ago
Pavel will end up in a "mise en examen" it's to risky for the french gov to release him. If you can't understand that basic fact you are a sucker and deserve to lose you YES money.
abdendriel
10 months ago
The other option to pretrial detention is judicial supervision
Car
10 months ago
Starting to think its too much charges for 1 day, so the court decides to lock him up for longer, so they have more time. Its so late in Paris already
abdendriel
10 months ago
Between his release from custody and the judge’s decision on pre trial detention, he’s now what?
abdendriel
10 months ago
Or was he in judicial supervision, which is not custody?
Jul3s
10 months ago
He is not free, he just left custody because it's been 96H. Now he is in front of a judge who is going to decide if he keeps him as pre-trial custody or not.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Was he in pre-trial custody before the court session?
Jul3s
10 months ago
He is not free, he just left custody because it's been 96H. Now he is in front of a judge who is going to decide if he keeps him as pre-trial custody or not.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Is it custody under French law? If it were, human rights lawyers could sue the police
Laresgoiti
10 months ago
He was transported but not under custody. They could have transferred him while keeping him under custody but that is not the case
abdendriel
10 months ago
There is a strict legal definition for police custody, including rights and conditions. Whose custody is he in now? Show me the legal framework for it.
BlackSky123
10 months ago
My interpretation is that he was released from POLICE custody and transferred to court custody or something, the videos of him being taken to court he certainly doesn't seem free, doesn't seem like a true release from custody but simply a transfer, we will see if I get rule cucked and this ages poorly though.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Law only allows 96h detention. There are legal definitions of custody and release.
Eyebrows
10 months ago
To resolve this yes simply because he's at court now would be a terrible rules cuck, seriously.
abdendriel
10 months ago
The market is about the person releasing him, not what he does after that.
BUBASIIK
10 months ago
If he was released, why didnt hi fly away?
abdendriel
10 months ago
Who said anything about being free? Question is, is he in custody right now?
Gena🐊
10 months ago
Those who think is free propose a resolution, those who not like my coment!
abdendriel
10 months ago
Rules don’t mention anything about freedom. Custody ended with his release, otherwise police are in violation of law. If it ended in “transportation to another location of custody” they break the law by holding hun for too long.
Gena🐊
10 months ago
So he can walk free through the streets of Paris?
abdendriel
10 months ago
If you can prove the police did a custody transfer, you’ve proven they broke the law.
BUBASIIK
10 months ago
Transporting Durov to another location of custody will not suffice to resolve this market to "Yes". His release is a procedural standart.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Is he in court custody now or is he simply in court? French law allows 96 hrs detainment without a verdict.
abdendriel
10 months ago
Can someone explain why this hasn’t resolved to Yes? Future events can’t erase a past event. The “release from custody” event has happened already. Future indictments or arrests can’t change the past.
abdendriel
10 months ago
After Harris put out the chicken sound video, neithe rod them can afford to be chicken now
abdendriel
10 months ago
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/philadelphia/news/kamala-harris-donald-trump-debate-philadelphia/
abdendriel
11 months ago
Both parties agreed. Backing out would look worse than poor performance. Question now is how many debates
abdendriel
11 months ago
WaPo: The pick is due by Aug. 7, when the Democratic Party aims to formally nominate its ticket, solidifying Harris’s elevation to the top slot after President Biden’s exit from the contest. But we just got word that Harris is planning to tour the battlegrounds with the pick next week, which suggests it could come before the deadline.
HaterAde
11 months ago
No one cares about arbitrary deadlines. Tick tock.
abdendriel
11 months ago
Harris must pick a running mate by Aug. 7 to comply with Ohio's current ballot deadline, which remains in effect. Harris' team is planning to finish the vetting of the VP field and expects her to pick her running mate by that date, according to a source familiar with the plans.
abdendriel
11 months ago
Rules of the democrats roll call require a VP to be picked by Aug 7. She’s got plenty of time and options to get everything in order to qualify.
abdendriel
11 months ago
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/barack-michelle-obama-kamala-harris-endorsement/index.html
abdendriel
11 months ago
What if Biden drops voluntarily and these people propose another candidate before the DNC? According to the rules wouldn’t that resolve to Yes even though the person didn’t technically ask Biden to drop?