#55
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551
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193
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abdendriel
10 hours ago
Guardian article citing Can Xue as favourite…for 2023 prize and she didn’t win. https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/04/chinese-author-can-xue-favourite-win-2023-nobel-prize-for-literature
abdendriel
1 day ago
Adam Back now looking over his shoulder every now and then for everyone who lost money on him
abdendriel
1 day ago
Peter Todd admitted it himself by saying Hoback was “grasping at straws”. Denies being Satoshi but admits Hoback’s conclusion.
abdendriel
1 day ago
If Musk was in the doc, HBO would be selling it on those preview clips like crazy
abdendriel
1 day ago
Why ppl buy No Back. Last part of the interview https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
1 day ago
I don’t think Forbes would gamble its reputation on being verifiably wrong. Only we PM freaks do that
abdendriel
1 day ago
Source?
yuyang
1 day ago
This morning, HBO leaked a video, and at the end of the movie, it reads: Memory of 'Dave Kleiman' - Forever Satoshi Nakamoto. Dave Kleiman is the final Satoshi Nakamoto.
abdendriel
1 day ago
After Adam helped Cullen so much with the doc, imagine Cullen concludes it by accusing Adam of falsifying documents submitted to a court, accusing him of perjury. I don’t think that’s how this goes down.
abdendriel
1 day ago
Oh shit check out the cast on IMDB. Only a few ppl… and Peter Todd at the end. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt33600145/fullcredits/cast?ref_=m_ttfc_2
abdendriel
2 days ago
Director said the confronted him. So he’s not dead
abdendriel
3 days ago
“ idk wtf im doing i put all my life savings in yolo hopefully my parents dont kick me out” -2nd largest Adam Back holder. Check out Activity, almost exclusively Adam Back. Scroll down to see the comment
abdendriel
3 days ago
And also there are large buy spikes in Yes Adam Back, as if certain buyers were new to this but came here to throw money at it
abdendriel
3 days ago
Tried looking into Adam Back volatility. Look at the second largest holder for Yes. Account created recently almost just to buy Yes Adam Back consistently. Also their comments are like “yolo haha”. https://polymarket.com/profile/0x076425d6110b25e6d1c17b14cfefa84b29918c45
abdendriel
3 days ago
Check out Adam Back’s twitter @adam3us. Total fanboy
abdendriel
3 days ago
Yea I feel like Adam Back is using the show to get publicity for his company
makszed
3 days ago
People are funny. They assume if someone appears in a trailer, they're the creators, but that's not how trailers work. You don't know the real truth—Len is definitely winning.
abdendriel
3 days ago
And Adam back was super cooperative with them
n/a
3 days ago
In the interview they say they confront the prime suspect. Cant confront dead men - Sassman and Finney https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/07/business/video/bitcoin-creator-identity-satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-documentary-digvid
abdendriel
3 days ago
Why the big Elon bet, Car?
Car
3 days ago
Wait, in the trailer they are talking about the government alot, so maybe they are going to conclude that Satoshi = the US government. That would also make sense because they said it would shock the US elections
abdendriel
3 days ago
Cullen said he’s the first person they talked to to try to lead them to Satoshi. Then the result is unexpected
Fatboyslim
3 days ago
Breaking: it's been revealed that Adam Back is in the documentary
abdendriel
3 days ago
Cullen says they talked to the usual suspects and Adam Back was a starting point that led them to a deeper mystery. The result is controversial and May shock the election. https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
3 days ago
This is totally how Satoshi writes: https://x.com/adam3us/status/1798054843623628963?s=46
abdendriel
4 days ago
Photoshoots with a wizard’s robe and repping some other crypto companies by wearing their hoodie on the HBO doc.
abdendriel
4 days ago
Satoshi’s twitter handle revealed: @adam3us. Mysteriously stepped away with 1m BTC but he’s now pumping “uptober”, pissed it’s not $100k
abdendriel
4 days ago
Satoshi’s twitter handle revealed: @adam3us. Mysteriously stepped away with 1m BTC but he’s now pumping “uptober”, pissed it’s not $100k
abdendriel
4 days ago
From the author of the bitcoin white paper who implemented his vision and moved on to other things, Adam Back: https://x.com/adam3us/status/1842474436970020870?s=46
ensemble0112358
4 days ago
You are a moron and don't know what you just copy-pasted.
abdendriel
4 days ago
Satoshi handed everything over to move on and remain anonymous (or die). Adam back is going around acting like a total BTC fanboy. Check out his twitter
GrapeFlavoredDrinkMix
4 days ago
Seems like Adam is the focal point of the documentary, I think he repeatedly denies being Satoshi as a humility thing, but it looks like HBO is going to strongly insinuate he grandfathered the concept.
abdendriel
4 days ago
Backstreets Back, but Satoshi isn’t Back. Adam Back’s tweet: “ in a market sense which is what matters, it's just not here. no one wants to be short, and you can see that from short duration option chains, high long funding rates, and domination of basis traders vs real shorts.” Check out Adam’s twitter, it’s not him
abdendriel
4 days ago
Interview with Cullen Hoback https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
4 days ago
Adam Back denied being Satoshi. Cullen said in an interview that they started with Back and this lead to a much grander mystery. The name is someone controversial that is unexpected
abdendriel
4 days ago
Director said Adam led them to further evidence and a controversial name
GrapeFlavoredDrinkMix
4 days ago
Seems like Adam is the focal point of the documentary, I think he repeatedly denies being Satoshi as a humility thing, but it looks like HBO is going to strongly insinuate he grandfathered the concept.
abdendriel
4 days ago
Agreed. Satoshi wouldn’t be the CEO of some blockchain company
Bepper
4 days ago
If Adam was Satoshi he would have just claimed bitcoin. He already made Hashcash. Bitcoin would have just been a new version. Satoshi communicated with via email with Wei Dai first. It's pretty obvious SN (NS) was looking for code examples which lead him to Hashcash. If you're a programmer you understand this process. In the bitcoin talks forums in 2013 Adam made suggestions about how he would have done things differently. Adam bragged heavily in the forums that bitcoin got the hash idea from him. This is not someone who was trying to hide the connection. Adam is not Satoshi. Had he been Satoshi he would have never hid his identity. There is only one person who qualifies and has the type of personality who would hide his identity, someone who loves pseudonyms.
abdendriel
4 days ago
“Funding secured” was not a joke
abdendriel
4 days ago
Satoshi slip-ups reveal clues. Van Nuys IP address (near SpaceX) exposed. Funding secured tweet
addicts
4 days ago
Honestly, it could be anyone else BESIDES Hal
abdendriel
4 days ago
Cullen Hoback said Adam was his first point of contact. The conversation led him deeper into a mystery that resulted in an unexpected and controversial name.
abdendriel
4 days ago
Some emails between Adam and Satoshi: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/bitcoin-adam-backs-complete-emails-satoshi-nakamoto
abdendriel
4 days ago
Deep respect to Satoshi for making sure Adam’s hashcash papers had proper citations so he got credit
abdendriel
4 days ago
Some emails between Adam and Satoshi: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/bitcoin-adam-backs-complete-emails-satoshi-nakamoto
abdendriel
4 days ago
Some emails between Adam and Satoshi: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/bitcoin-adam-backs-complete-emails-satoshi-nakamoto
abdendriel
4 days ago
Adam back as an entry point into a bigger mystery that the director says the result is unexpected, controversial and will get debated.
abdendriel
4 days ago
“ I put that on a shelf for a while and said, all right, if I can get prolonged access to one of them as an entry point, that might unlock the larger story. That entry point was Adam Back[…]so it became a key entry point to unlocking the bigger mystery.” -director. See interview: https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
4 days ago
“ I put that on a shelf for a while and said, all right, if I can get prolonged access to one of them as an entry point, that might unlock the larger story. That entry point was Adam Back[…]so it became a key entry point to unlocking the bigger mystery.” -director. See interview: https://www.fastcompany.com/91201894/satoshi-nakamoto-hbo-bitcoin-documnetary-money-electric-trailer
abdendriel
4 days ago
Helped the director so much to unravel the mystery
abdendriel
4 days ago
Adam back was the only one who could’ve
abdendriel
4 days ago
Adam back was the only one who could’ve
abdendriel
4 days ago
Hal categorically denied it and his son showed conversations between Hal and Satoshi
abdendriel
4 days ago
Watch till the end. He’s Back
Tentaclecracy
4 days ago
This link points me to a Terminator II video
abdendriel
4 days ago
They got footage of Satoshi admitting he’s Adam Back https://youtu.be/44gD94kl5CU?si=inXq0ZLmJGWthWSr
abdendriel
4 days ago
Why do you think it’s Adam Back?
goingsocial
5 days ago
Idk who came in and decided this should be a prediction market. Please go back to being an opinion poll
abdendriel
4 days ago
Can someone explain why it’s Adam Back?
abdendriel
5 days ago
Imagine if the documentary isn’t finished and they used the polymarket odds to identify the name
abdendriel
5 days ago
All u need for a military offensive are here: very broad definition which includes artillery fire. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_(military)#:~:text=An%20offensive%20is%20a%20military,%2C%20operational%2C%20or%20tactical%20goal.
abdendriel
5 days ago
“Military offensive” are the rules, not in invasion. IDF announced Northern Arrows operation started on 30 Sep
abdendriel
5 days ago
Polymarket deleted the tweet about him buying this https://x.com/polymarket/status/1838614497080062230?s=46
Gauth
5 days ago
But JustKen just bought 37k No
abdendriel
5 days ago
What we’re observing is drip buying Y / selling N. Both Y buyers and N sellers are trying to execute optimally with minimum price slippage.
abdendriel
5 days ago
“The Ayr’s have it” -50 Pence
HsB34sgg
5 days ago
Results speak for themselves. https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/israel-ground-invasion-might-cause-lebanon-to-completely-collapse-13822174.html
abdendriel
5 days ago
And the comment for pence
Car
5 days ago
Chad is the only person responsible for this Y price lol
abdendriel
5 days ago
Unless Car changes his opinion, which he has done in the past to his credit.
aldynspeedruns
5 days ago
this is a win-win scenario. Either I win, or car loses. No matter what I win.
abdendriel
5 days ago
40% votes revealed. Yes increased by a few percent. No percentage halved
abdendriel
5 days ago
Yes votes increased after more votes revealed
abdendriel
5 days ago
Good luck!
Dr.ChristmasJones
5 days ago
Just leaving this comment in a sea of YES holders
abdendriel
5 days ago
It’s an offensive if it achieves “some larger strategic or tactical goal”. Arguably what the larger strategy was in killing OBL. But in this case, the artillery shelling (done by ground troops) are all part of Northern Arrows
n/a
5 days ago
Isolated raids are not intended to establish control over part of lebanon. The IDF already announced these raids have been going on for months. Was killing Osama a USA invasion of Pakistan?
abdendriel
5 days ago
You can’t disconnect all the activities in the Northern Arrows offensive when the IDF state they’re all part of the Northern Areows offensive
n/a
5 days ago
@isabellebeaumont you are betting wayyyyy too much if you think Special Ops IDF use m16s lulz
abdendriel
5 days ago
They attacked, bro.
n/a
5 days ago
@isabellebeaumont you are betting wayyyyy too much if you think Special Ops IDF use m16s lulz
abdendriel
5 days ago
“ An offensive is a military operation that seeks through an aggressive projection of armed forces to occupy or recapture territory, gain an objective or achieve some larger strategic, operational, or tactical goal. Another term for an offensive often used by the media is "invasion", or the more general "attack"”.
n/a
5 days ago
@isabellebeaumont you are betting wayyyyy too much if you think Special Ops IDF use m16s lulz
abdendriel
5 days ago
I’m sorry bro. From 1 yes buyer to another previous yes buyer
n/a
5 days ago
bro pulled up info from 4 days ago and thought he had something 💀
abdendriel
5 days ago
“Invasion” is not in the rules. So many people got screwed before by reading the title and not the rules.
n/a
5 days ago
limited localized= not an invasion yet
abdendriel
5 days ago
IDF saved us by announcing the commencement of their offensive on twitter with a timestamp https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
5 days ago
Be careful not to be fooled by the title. The rules say “military offensive”.
abdendriel
5 days ago
The rules say “military offensive”. IDF announced they already began
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
5 days ago
Israel did want to control some land of Lebanon on Sep 30th. But Israel failed because Lebanon fought back.
abdendriel
5 days ago
November market unanimously voted it was an invasion already
n/a
5 days ago
I'd be curious to hear the No case here. The yes case writes itself. I guess the No case wants to isolate the raids from the invasion? Seems like a heavy lift.
abdendriel
5 days ago
Unanimous Y or the November market. Y price still cheaper than the US election (which is an actual coin flip). Rare opportunity
abdendriel
5 days ago
For those entering Y and exiting N I mean
abdendriel
5 days ago
Now it’s all about best execution
abdendriel
5 days ago
Now it’s all about best execution
abdendriel
5 days ago
Don’t forget the resolution source: A or B or Israel or C. IDF announced it started “a few hours ago” on 30 Sep https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
5 days ago
Dark poetry: this market resolves almost right on Oct 7
abdendriel
5 days ago
They’re reasonable people. The acted on the info available earlier. They’ll make a new reasonable decision with new info now
Darkpsico
5 days ago
Capitulation yet ?
abdendriel
5 days ago
No holders still have a chance to sell and double money on the yes
abdendriel
5 days ago
He’ll probably keep it in polymarket
n/a
5 days ago
Chads gonna have multiple houses after this
abdendriel
5 days ago
Happy Rosh Hashanah
abdendriel
5 days ago
We all knew this moment would happen.
abdendriel
5 days ago
We all knew this moment would happen.
abdendriel
5 days ago
What’s the remaining point of uncertainty?
HaterzLoserz
5 days ago
Reason is telling me to stay out, emotions are telling me to buy yes for the lulz, better judgement has prevailed for now, but this may change at any moment. Dont get too excited though, and dont risk what you cant afford to lose (chad)
abdendriel
5 days ago
Actually half hoping some Yes holders will take profit early so I can get in
abdendriel
5 days ago
Bought more Yes before other ppl notice
abdendriel
5 days ago
No doubt anymore tho, can only complain that UMA is controlled by whales
n/a
5 days ago
Will NO commence a copefenssive intended to establish control over this market?
abdendriel
5 days ago
No more doubts about intention!!
abdendriel
5 days ago
IDF announced their offensive started “a few hours ago” in a tweet on 30 Sep https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
5 days ago
https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
5 days ago
IDF announced the offensive started a few hours ago on 30 Sep.
abdendriel
6 days ago
The operation will occupy their homes. They’re welcome to return once the operation is done
abdendriel
6 days ago
Netanyahu said it to the people of Lebanon: “ Please, get out of harm's way now. Once our operation is finished, you can come back safely to your homes.” https://x.com/israelipm/status/1838249143891861626?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
Netanyahu said it to the people of Lebanon: “ Please, get out of harm's way now. Once our operation is finished, you can come back safely to your homes.” https://x.com/israelipm/status/1838249143891861626?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
There’s new evidence. The establishment of control is happening over recent days.
hp-loveshack
6 days ago
this market's lost its damn marbles. in the past 48hr, uma told you there was insufficient evidence for 'yes', and even gave more time to accrue evidence. now, there's no new evidence that either discredits the case for 'no' or further advances the case for 'yes'. and yet the market's reverted to 50/50? wild stuff.
abdendriel
6 days ago
IDF footage of the houses and tunnels they established control over https://x.com/idf/status/1841886439732134055?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
IDF established control of house. Hezbollah can’t enter this house anymore to grab their munitions back. https://x.com/idf/status/1842127761944809559?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
They’re in control of this home. https://x.com/idf/status/1842127761944809559?s=46
denizz
6 days ago
Israel still hasn’t controlled any territory, per institute for the study of war. No consensus that they are trying to do so, which would be contra their stated intentions.
abdendriel
6 days ago
Yes there’s a reason they chose Too Early and then some of them switched to Yes. None switched to No
BibiNetanyahu
6 days ago
(Just FYI this is extremely, extremely likely to go Yes, barring explosive new information, and you should not trade based off people in the comments trying to pump their bags)
abdendriel
6 days ago
Moshe Zalman Feiglin (Hebrew: מֹשֶׁה זַלְמָן פֶייגְּלִין; born 31 July 1962) is a right libertarian-leaning[1][2][3] Israeli politician and activist, and the leader of libertarian Zionist party Zehut.
abdendriel
6 days ago
Moshe Feiglin on the governments plan https://x.com/moshefeiglin/status/1838830185023480060?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
Moshe Feiglin on the governments plan https://x.com/moshefeiglin/status/1838830185023480060?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
Yair Golan (Hebrew: יאיר גולן; born 14 May 1962) is an Israeli politician and leader of the Democrats party and a senior military officer.
abdendriel
6 days ago
Google translate: “ In any case, a ground move must be prepared for immediate action that will allow control of the Lebanese ridges that rule into our territory.”
abdendriel
6 days ago
Google translate: “ In any case, a ground move must be prepared for immediate action that will allow control of the Lebanese ridges that rule into our territory.”
abdendriel
6 days ago
Yair Golan: “ בכל מקרה יש להכין לפעולה מיידית מהלך קרקעי שיאפשר שליטה ברכסים הלבנונים השולטים לתוך שטחנו.” https://x.com/YairGolan1/status/1839256229157212285
abdendriel
6 days ago
Yair Golan: “ בכל מקרה יש להכין לפעולה מיידית מהלך קרקעי שיאפשר שליטה ברכסים הלבנונים השולטים לתוך שטחנו.” https://x.com/YairGolan1/status/1839256229157212285
abdendriel
6 days ago
Rosh Hashanah ends after Tishrei 2 (nightfall of Oct 4). IDF will be “let’s move out” and start establishing control over the bombsites A and B
abdendriel
6 days ago
This is the link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_(military)
abdendriel
6 days ago
Military offensive can consist of only 10 ppl. But in this case there are 100 tanks and tens of IDF casualties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon
abdendriel
6 days ago
Military offensive can consist of only 10 ppl. But in this case there are 100 tanks and tens of IDF casualties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon
HsB34sgg
6 days ago
The "Israeli forces enters Lebanon in September?" RESOLVED YES with near UNNANIMOUS votes. The proof is overwhelming!!! https://polymarket.com/event/israeli-forces-enters-lebanon-in-september
abdendriel
6 days ago
In the last vote, some of the Too Early voters voted for Yes. No was unchanged.
Scoobs
6 days ago
What's the argument for "Too early" anymore? " if Israel commences a military offensive intended to establish control over any portion of Lebanon" - there is plent of proof that forces moved in on September 30. And now there is plenty of proof that that action has escalated and Israel is moving deeper into Lebanon. Can someone enlighten me?
abdendriel
6 days ago
It’s more like the intentions of the offensive are being revealed. When you travel somewhere, your intentions of going there are observed by the activities you do after arriving.
Mr. House
6 days ago
Sorry to all people but this market is looking rig to me, what a coincidence that in the middle of the night a butch of orders start to apper.
abdendriel
6 days ago
It’s probably because of the proposals, disputes, votes that have been happening that causes volatility.
Mr. House
6 days ago
Sorry to all people but this market is looking rig to me, what a coincidence that in the middle of the night a butch of orders start to apper to hit the yes that is the true.
abdendriel
6 days ago
Trying to get in cheaper?
Mr. House
6 days ago
Sorry to all people but this market is looking rig to me, what a coincidence that in the middle of the night a butch of orders start to apper.
abdendriel
6 days ago
As information is available, it should be shared with the PM community for transparency. Otherwise a whale could buy up all the Yes liquidity with early information before everyone else got the chance
FamilyCapital
6 days ago
On 30th september they scammed you, now they repeat same thing, bought under 20c YES, spamming comment section with "proofs", I wrote in discord as well in here in comment section, they gonna succeed it again. Voala.
abdendriel
6 days ago
Some Too Early voters voted Yes in the last vote. No was unchanged. As time passes, more info is revealed.
FamilyCapital
6 days ago
On 30th september they scammed you, now they repeat same thing, bought under 20c YES, spamming comment section with "proofs", I wrote in discord as well in here in comment section, they gonna succeed it again. Voala.
abdendriel
6 days ago
IDF established control of these properties and tunnels beneath them. https://x.com/idfsoldiergirl/status/1841177612473025007?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
Operation Northern Arrows is the name of the offensive in Lebanon. Ground troops are just a part of the wider offensive. Check launch date https://x.com/amnestyireland/status/1841775865920676269?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
IDF self-reported that the offensive commenced a few hours ago on 30 Sep. Resolution source is A or B or Israel or C. The offensive commenced with artillery shelling in preparation for troop advance.
Car
6 days ago
nobody agreed it happened on september 30th. Otherwise the vote wouldnt have gone to P4
abdendriel
6 days ago
That’s a good attitude. It’s just one position in your diversified portfolio. But look, there’s no doubt what Bibi’s plan is with the “New Middle East” and complaints about 1701 buffer zone not enforced. It’s a matter of chance that the offensive started hours before this market closed.
🤺JustKen
6 days ago
Man you guys are absolutely nutso
abdendriel
6 days ago
Don’t you just love it when things commence with a clear and decisive announcement? https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776
abdendriel
6 days ago
I love it when the military marked the commencement it’s operations with such a clear and decisive announcement!
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
6 days ago
our marriage
abdendriel
6 days ago
We were all there, waiting for the cabinet to approve it’s commencement on 30 Sep when finally the IDF tweet came out to announce it’s commencement.
HsB34sgg
6 days ago
Can anybody tell me what Operation “Northern Arrows” is??? WHAT IS IT???? https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776
abdendriel
6 days ago
We saw some Too Early voters decide they were ready to conclude. yes increased, no unchanged.
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
6 days ago
People were aping into a NO bet based on P4... but didn’t understand the meaning. Time to get out before you sell junk bonds!
abdendriel
6 days ago
100 tanks crossing the border, deep evacuation calls, IDF soldiers dead. It’s a military offensive. Go tell the families of fallen soldiers and displaced Lebanese residents that it’s a minor raid.
HsB34sgg
6 days ago
Timely confirmation of the “COMMENCEMENT OF A MILITARY OFFENSIVE” as per the rules. https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780570378248414 More Confirmation of the “COMMENCEMENT OF A MILITARY OFFENSIVE” in the September market BEFORE THE DEADLINE. https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840759133512888729 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840772769501331888 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840772824715173931 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780061948944504 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780093762699637 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780198683242905 https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840780570378248414 Google translates raids as raids, and airstrikes as airstrikes. https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840719580060070032 Bombed https://x.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1840758553016942887
abdendriel
6 days ago
The ones who did are the Yes holders now
n/a
6 days ago
Greedy NOses, why didnt you take profits at .95C?
abdendriel
6 days ago
Rules: “commence military offensive”. IDF: “ In accordance with the decision of the political echelon, a few hours ago, the IDF began limited, localized, and targeted ground raids”. And thus the “Northern Arrows” offensive began as approved by upper echelons of government
abdendriel
6 days ago
The word “invasion” isn’t in the rules.
🤺JustKen
6 days ago
It's really embarrassing that someone would exclude the title, and exclude the key piece of information. As you can see, when ChatGPT is given the title and the key piece of information, it immediately switches to No: https://chatgpt.com/share/66ff7c2a-8450-8012-95d6-abd707566ead
abdendriel
6 days ago
How can IDF tell the 60,000 displaced northern Israelis that it’s safe to return to border towns? Only by promising that they’ve established control.
HsB34sgg
6 days ago
Market rules for both the September and November Invade markets have been completely satisfied by Israel’s invasion into Lebanon. It's called AREA ACCESS DENIAL, a fundamental military strategy to establish control over a strategically important zone. In this case, pushing Hezbollah back 5KM to reestablish the UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which obligated Hezbollah to remain north of the Litani River. (i.e., to establish control over a portion of Lebanon.) Hezbollah has been in contravention of the Resolution ever since it was passed. Israel is intent on rectifying that problem by force, and once and for all! They started with the ground invasion on September 30th. This operation will continue until the openly stated and widely publicized stated objectives are achieved.
abdendriel
6 days ago
Resolution Sources: A or B or Israel or C. IDF announced the offensive began 30 Sep ET
BenCM
6 days ago
1 October Invasion was 30 September ET. That's the key fact.
abdendriel
6 days ago
IDF established control over these properties and tunnels in Lebanon. https://x.com/idf/status/1841886439732134055?s=46
abdendriel
6 days ago
Evidence of intent can surface after the action. If you travel somewhere, your intent can be evidenced by what you do after you arrive.
Slytherin
6 days ago
What happened in October cannot serve as evidence for September.
abdendriel
6 days ago
There have been so many buffer zone 1701 talks amongst Israeli leadership leading up to the offensive. Now the evacuation instructions roughly line up with the 1701 buffer zone
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
6 days ago
Israel's military has reportedly added ground units to its operation against the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah. The IDF's stated goal is to restore a demilitarized buffer zone in southern Lebanon to ensure the safe return of some 60,000 Israeli residents to homes in northern Israel.
abdendriel
6 days ago
No such thing as a high yield bond without risk. Online gambling isn’t a high yield bond. Understand the upset when IDF announces it launched the offensive hours before the market deadline.
Justifax
6 days ago
I understand some folks are bitter about getting rugged on the last day like this, but it happens, more often than you probably realize. Dozens of reputable outlets on Sept30th stated that the invasion had begun. That is a commencement.
abdendriel
6 days ago
With IDF casualties, IDF will need to update the nation on what the sacrifice was for. Achievements will be revealed soon
abdendriel
6 days ago
I don’t get it..
RememberAmalek
6 days ago
don't dispute yet we're fine
abdendriel
6 days ago
Some Too Early voters now have the info needed to vote yes. No is unchanged
abdendriel
1 week ago
Responding to supporting material with threats
Naak
1 week ago
You better start selling like the rest before you loose the rest.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Landmark post from the IDF: https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
FamilyCapital
1 week ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_yehAI5IQ Proof of an Israel invasion into Lebanon? Oh wait, this is about Russia invading Ukraine. But Ukraine has a lower population density and about 50 times a larger border with Russia and Belarus combined than Israel has with Lebanon. So how is it possible that we have no proof of an actual invasion of Israel into Lebanon on September 30th?
abdendriel
1 week ago
Resolution source: A or B or Israel or C
FamilyCapital
1 week ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_yehAI5IQ Proof of an Israel invasion into Lebanon? Oh wait, this is about Russia invading Ukraine. But Ukraine has a lower population density and about 50 times a larger border with Russia and Belarus combined than Israel has with Lebanon. So how is it possible that we have no proof of an actual invasion of Israel into Lebanon on September 30th?
abdendriel
1 week ago
To evidence intention, context around the action is needed. As context is found and comes out, the intentions of the offensive will become evident
Naak
1 week ago
All these yes holder who cant even read simple rules sharing unrelated news posts while selling their shares is funny.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Bibi at the UN: “ This is the map I presented here last year. It’s a map of a blessing. It shows Israel and its Arab partners forming a land bridge connecting Asia and Europe. Between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, across this bridge, we will lay rail lines..”
abdendriel
1 week ago
I wonder what IDF’s intentions are when asking for this evacuation
abdendriel
1 week ago
“ DF Arabic-language spokesman Avichay Adraee announced that more than 20 villages across southern Lebanon were being called on to evacuate as the military's ground operation against Hezbollah continued.” https://x.com/jerusalem_post/status/1841788164580552908?s=46
abdendriel
1 week ago
“ DF Arabic-language spokesman Avichay Adraee announced that more than 20 villages across southern Lebanon were being called on to evacuate as the military's ground operation against Hezbollah continued.” https://x.com/jerusalem_post/status/1841788164580552908?s=46
Kobafix
1 week ago
"Lebanese army says it fired on Israeli troops after second soldier killed in strike" https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-823089
abdendriel
1 week ago
Yes holders are presenting findings and arguments, soon to be made by a portion of the world who don’t even know what polymarket is. Question of whether Israel launched an offensive to control part of Lebanon will be discussed even after this market is resolved. We’re not threatening anyone or saying something bad will happen to your shares. On the other hand, more and more No holders (not all) are going to threats and talking about the price.
abdendriel
1 week ago
“Major” isn’t in the rules. Military offensive includes bombing the capitol of a country. Or even artillery shelling
🤺JustKen
1 week ago
This video shows a small raid. If you have video of a major offensive (or anything close to that) designed to control parts of Lebanon on September 30th, I think that would be very pertinent information to bring forward.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Pearl Harbour: military offensive launched when planes departed from Japan. At the time of launch, the planes were not yet in US airspace and no Americans witnessed it until they arrived.
abdendriel
1 week ago
This is a pattern when Yes side are all facts and no side are all threats
n/a
1 week ago
anyone know what's up?
abdendriel
1 week ago
Similarly, IDF (resolution source) announced the launch of their offensive on 30 Sep, saying it started hours ago. The offensive involved shelling and alleged use of white phosphorous, followed by troop advance.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Pearl Harbour was a military offensive. Before the planes entered US airspace, the offensive had been launched. Americans did not witness the launch from Japan.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Pearl Harbour was a military offensive. Before the planes entered US airspace, the offensive had been launched. Americans did not witness the launch from Japan.
Justifax
1 week ago
The "Northern Arrows operation" commenced on Sept 30th, ET. This has been broadly reported by every single media outlet. Nobody disputes this - nobody. As to the specific tactics of the operation, sure, who knows exactly what precisely happened. But the rules don't ask for that. You can argue 'control' if you want, but it is very unserious to argue 'commence' when every headline agrees on exactly when this operation started.
abdendriel
1 week ago
They’re one of the resolution sources. No need for hezbollah to see them if hezbollah are hiding somewhere
n/a
1 week ago
No need to guess, when the IDF says they are already going in, before the deadline https://x.com/IDF/status/1840890054819864776
abdendriel
1 week ago
That sounds like someone who wants to keep liquidity available
rozi
1 week ago
It no longer matters what should or shouldn't happen. We already know the 80% of the UMA votes. It's pretty much a done deal, independently of what actually happened on the ground.
abdendriel
1 week ago
The offensive is called the Northern Arrows operation
Justifax
1 week ago
Why this market should go same as November: assume that the offensive didn't commence on Sept 30th despite every headline from every credible outlet saying it did. Ask yourself - at what point does the offensive commence?
abdendriel
1 week ago
Too early is about intention to control a portion. Voting and disputes had plenty of time after the deadline.
rozi
1 week ago
Voting No is logically wrong, because the resolution was proposed a few hours before the deadline, so in principle Israel could've invaded between the proposal before the deadline. The Too Early votes can essentially be seen as No votes for the next round.
abdendriel
1 week ago
It was too early then, but now, the “control of a portion” of Lebanese space is evident on photo (self-reported by IDF) and video
n/a
1 week ago
90% voted p4 - too early, and 10% - Yes.
abdendriel
1 week ago
The intent to control a portion is now playing out because there’s footage of them actually doing it.
n/a
1 week ago
If Yes would be a viable solution for too early wouldn't have dropped so much but rather like the Maduro market to 80 first and then slowly going down with more evidence. All the yes holders hope for is another pump and dump in the 30s
abdendriel
1 week ago
Btw is all this info in the discord right now? It seems like all boxes are tucked in the rules.
n/a
1 week ago
Yep, the "special military raids". They can call it whatever they want. Doesnt change the reality, that they right now occupy parts of Lebanon.
abdendriel
1 week ago
1:46 they’re controlling that area between those buildings
n/a
1 week ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sAiPglN-o8
abdendriel
1 week ago
Same boat but I don’t understand the controversy..
144
1 week ago
So I just now bought these 2.7k shares it’s clear to me it was an invasion per the rules. I understand the controversy but I’m going to assume that this is going to resolve correctly despite was so,e of the naysayers and other people are saying about the possibly biased voting mechanism (which I do not understand. I’m new to this site). Seems like the controversy was cleared up officially now. For me it is a good test to see if Polymarket rules resolutions can be trusted to stay true to English and logic
abdendriel
1 week ago
Yes and there doesn’t need to contact for an offensive to be launched. Napoleon launched a military offensive into Russia
n/a
1 week ago
We know for certainty, that the IDF took the Lebanese border crossings (part of Lebanon clay), as the Lebanese army retreated north.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Northern Arrows was approved evening of 30 Sep and artillery shelling started. That’s a military offensive (so was pearl harbour). The intention has played out as IDF control portions of land with Hezb assets on them
abdendriel
1 week ago
When a rocket is launched from one country to another, the launch time refers to the rocket starting the journey, even if it’s still within the origin country’s airspace.
abdendriel
1 week ago
When a rocket is launched from one country to another, the launch time refers to the rocket starting the journey, even if it’s still within the origin country’s airspace.
abdendriel
1 week ago
IDF are going to settle down somewhere in Lebanon and it will be clear it’s under their control.
n/a
1 week ago
Nothing is decided. Vote was too early. More evidence comes out by the day.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Israel’s military offensive (Northern Arrows) included giving instructions to Lebanese citizens to leave. IDF are giving orders to residents and following up with military activity. This is an intention to control “ The Israeli military warned people in 50 Lebanese villages and towns to evacuate north of the Awali River, some 60 kilometers (37 miles) from the border and much farther than the northern edge of a U.N.-declared zone intended to serve as a buffer between Israel and Hezbollah after their 2006 war. Hundreds of thousands have already fled their homes.”
n/a
1 week ago
Israel presses forward on two fronts and reports https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-lebanon-hezbollah-gaza-news-10-02-2024-7d93f71b7894177b4f9c303671ee55de
abdendriel
1 week ago
Anyone doubts that this portion is under IDF control? Can Hezbollah go there and use it now or is it in the hands of the IDF?
abdendriel
1 week ago
The tripod is sitting on a triangular portion of Lebanon that IDF control. Their intention was to control this rocket launcher so it stopped launching rockets.
abdendriel
1 week ago
The tripod is sitting on a triangular portion of Lebanon that IDF control. Their intention was to control this rocket launcher so it stopped launching rockets.
abdendriel
1 week ago
“ Here is Hezbollah attack infrastructure, which included a rocket launcher, explosive stockpiles and additional military equipment that our forces located and destroyed:”. IDF posted a picture of a Hezbollah rocket launcher which they now control. https://x.com/idf/status/1841436605669835238?s=46
abdendriel
1 week ago
“ Here is Hezbollah attack infrastructure, which included a rocket launcher, explosive stockpiles and additional military equipment that our forces located and destroyed:”. IDF posted a picture of a Hezbollah rocket launcher which they now control. https://x.com/idf/status/1841436605669835238?s=46
abdendriel
1 week ago
“IDF soldiers will mark the holiday in the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, Judea and Samaria“ says IDF. They intend to celebrate Rosh Hashanah in a portion of Lebanon, all possible because of an offensive approved and launched on the night of 30 Sep. https://x.com/idf/status/1841506768364466419?s=46
abdendriel
1 week ago
Did the tanks park overnight?
abdendriel
1 week ago
Military offensive? yes. Intention to control a portion? We’ll see which portion the tanks are parked on. Unless they’re driving back and forth daily.
abdendriel
1 week ago
What’s the source of doubt right now? Intention to control a portion of Lebanon?
abdendriel
1 week ago
Hahahahhaha
AugustoPinochet73
1 month ago
People don't realize that among americans there is a sexual practice where, usually a man, kisses the anus of another man. Thinking that Americans are virginal saints and won't get the diseases is just nuts.
abdendriel
1 week ago
How did the aircraft enter the Hezbollah tunnels then?
Besh24
1 week ago
Raids they mention are air raids to prepare for a ground operation. Ground raids are incoming. The yes market bullies unfortunately need some reality check
abdendriel
1 week ago
Israel is included in the resolution source as well as a consensus of credible reporting. We have both
notinventedhere
1 week ago
📝 🇱🇧 *Field Reports from Southern Lebanon* 📡 *Field correspondents* on the southern Lebanese borders are reporting that, as of now, there has been *no breakthrough* at the borders. However, rescue helicopters have been spotted evacuating *Israeli soldiers* on two separate occasions. 🚁 ⚠️ It is important to highlight that the ongoing *media blackout* from both sides is making it extremely difficult to obtain *precise and live* information. Much of the news currently being shared is through the observations of local people who remain in the area, close to *UNIFIL* and the *Lebanese Army* forces. 🪖👀 *📲 Stay tuned for more updates and insights with Wider Vision!*
abdendriel
1 week ago
I can’t believe there’s still a question about whether a military offensive occurred. IDF have even announced it.
HsB34sgg
1 week ago
More confirmations just keep piling in! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9EK2bddG_Y, https://thenightly.com.au/world/lebanon-israel-commences-ground-invasion--c-16237510, https://www.arabnews.pk/node/2573438/middle-east, https://www.observerbd.com/news/492816, https://x.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1840966652092981709
abdendriel
1 week ago
Yes, Lebanon not enforcing 1701 so Israel saying they’ll do it for them
HsB34sgg
1 week ago
Your logic is faulty. Israel's intent has been made public for weeks!!!
abdendriel
1 week ago
There’s no evidence that the military operation was offensive, because IDF stands for Israel Defense Force, not Offence Force.
HsB34sgg
1 week ago
CNN now confirming!!! https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk The Times of Israel now confirming, too!!!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-30-2024/ Now, the Independent confirming! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion-war-leaders-iran-live-updates-b2621409.html The Telegraph now confirming!!! https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-inavsion-latest-news/ Forbes has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/09/30/israel-begins-ground-raids-in-southern-lebanon/ NPR confirming!!! https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s1-5133463/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion Reuters now confirming!!!! We have a massive "consensus of credible reporting"!!! Resolution of this market? YES, YES, YES! https://www.reuters.com/world/lebanon-israel-live-updates-hezbollah-hamas-yemen-port-hit-by-airstrikes-2024-09-30/ Israeli military has now confirmed! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-hamas-war-news-gaza/ The country of Israel has now CONFIRMED!!! It's Yes! https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/1/israel-says-has-started-targeted-ground-raids-in-lebanon The IDF has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.smh.com.au/world/idf-confirms-ground-invasion-underway-in-lebanon-20241001-p5kesd.html
abdendriel
1 week ago
So the intention was a short-term occupation, not long term
HsB34sgg
1 week ago
CNN now confirming!!! https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk The Times of Israel now confirming, too!!!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-30-2024/ Now, the Independent confirming! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion-war-leaders-iran-live-updates-b2621409.html The Telegraph now confirming!!! https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-inavsion-latest-news/ Forbes has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/09/30/israel-begins-ground-raids-in-southern-lebanon/ NPR confirming!!! https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s1-5133463/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion Reuters now confirming!!!! We have a massive "consensus of credible reporting"!!! Resolution of this market? YES, YES, YES! https://www.reuters.com/world/lebanon-israel-live-updates-hezbollah-hamas-yemen-port-hit-by-airstrikes-2024-09-30/ Israeli military has now confirmed! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/30/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-hamas-war-news-gaza/ The country of Israel has now CONFIRMED!!! It's Yes! https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/1/israel-says-has-started-targeted-ground-raids-in-lebanon The IDF has now CONFIRMED!!! https://www.smh.com.au/world/idf-confirms-ground-invasion-underway-in-lebanon-20241001-p5kesd.html
abdendriel
1 week ago
There’s no evidence IDF are not permitting Hezbollah militants from walking through the tanks, enjoying the tunnels, and walking right up to the blue line as long alas they’re in Lebanese territory.
abdendriel
1 week ago
100 tanks sitting in Lebanon. But they’re not controlling the area where they’re parked. Villagers are for sure hanging their laundry on the turrets
abdendriel
1 week ago
The intention is in the rhetoric pre invasion
Cedarville
1 week ago
I don't believe there's consensus on the intent of the incursion, and there's not enough information about current troops' movement/activities.. Switched to "no"
abdendriel
1 week ago
There’s a military offensive and prior to that, plenty of reports of officials talking about the need for a buffer zone. Anyway, they are in control of the ola e where the tanks have parked
abdendriel
1 week ago
https://www.jns.org/renewed-buffer-zone-in-lebanon-a-must-chikli/
abdendriel
1 week ago
That’s exactly what you’re missing. Their intentions are reported before they start the operation
abdendriel
1 week ago
Sources of intention are in past news, not breaking news. That’s where you’re not looking: https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-general-said-pushing-for-ground-incursion-to-create-south-lebanon-buffer-zone/amp/
abdendriel
1 week ago
Sources of intention are in past news, not breaking news. That’s where you’re not looking: https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-general-said-pushing-for-ground-incursion-to-create-south-lebanon-buffer-zone/amp/
abdendriel
1 week ago
https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-general-said-pushing-for-ground-incursion-to-create-south-lebanon-buffer-zone/amp/
abdendriel
1 week ago
The only remaining question is intention.
abdendriel
1 week ago
The only remaining question is intention.
abdendriel
1 week ago
IDF not only degraded Hezbollah’s assets, but also those of No holders with there transparent report on operation Northern Arrows
abdendriel
1 week ago
The IDF couldn’t have checked more boxes in the rules with this announcement: https://x.com/idf/status/1840890054819864776?s=46
abdendriel
1 week ago
Let me guess, AI
notinventedhere
1 week ago
As of September 30, 2024, intense conflict continues between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Israeli airstrikes have resulted in significant casualties, including the death of Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah and several senior commanders. Despite these losses, Hezbollah has vowed to continue its resistance, and there are indications that Israel may be preparing for a ground invasion, with Defense Minister Yoav Gallant suggesting the use of all available resources. However, no ground operations involving Israeli troops on Lebanese soil have been reported as of the end of September.
abdendriel
1 week ago
I liquidated my earlier position because I realized No holders may have been right about whether troops have entered. But now that’s happened, question is the intention of Northern Arrows
abdendriel
1 week ago
Either way, wish you happy Rosh Hashanah
n/a
1 week ago
If the No wins I wish you guys a happy Rosh Hashanah!
abdendriel
1 week ago
Consensus of credible reporting already reported the raids in the recent days
n/a
1 week ago
Seeing as the results will be from Isreal ans Hezbollah everyone voting yes should visit thr verfied isreali news channels.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Don’t confuse this market with the invasion market. It’s now clear that IDF jumped the gun and conducted raids before today
abdendriel
1 week ago
No all of them said they did raids already
Besh24
1 week ago
All news wires say they havent gone in yet
abdendriel
1 week ago
Yes they crossed before today in recent days during raids
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
They still DID NOT cross the border.
abdendriel
1 week ago
At the strategic level, a phase continue for years. Not all phases of combat include fighting between armed forces. Phases can, and usually do overlap, and sometimes can be planned for parallel execution, often as part of deception planning. Phases typically found in offensive military operations are: Preparation Intelligence gathering phase[1] Operations planning phase Logistics management phase Deception and counterintelligence phase Assembly phase https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
1 week ago
Intelligence gathering is part of combat operations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_operations_process
Will143
1 week ago
A raid is a surprise attack against a position or installation for a specific purpose other than seizing and holding the terrain. It is conducted to destroy a position or installation, destroy or capture enemy soldiers or equipment, or free prisoners. A raid patrol retains terrain just long enough to accomplish the intent of the raid. A raid always ends with a withdrawal off the objective and a return to the main body
abdendriel
1 week ago
I wonder if I need to keep repeating myself for 2 whole days about WSJ, CNN, and a host of credible reports of raids intensifying over recent days in preparation for the invasion. Don’t confuse this with the other invasion market
abdendriel
1 week ago
Facts are that a consensus of credible reporting came out over the past day around raids into lebanon
JoeBETS
1 week ago
Does polymarket always side with the 90%+ shareholders, I'm new but I feel like they're weak people who will always side with what everyone else is saying rather than basing off factual reports.
abdendriel
1 week ago
WSJ, CNN, Telegraph, many others reported the raids. Don’t confuse with the wider invasion
zynyz
1 week ago
Only ways for this to resolve Yes "official confirmation by Hezbollah and Israel" This has not happened, " Consensus of credible reporting" Israel’s Channel 12: Contrary to reports, there is currently no Israeli ground entry into Lebanon There is no consensus.
abdendriel
1 week ago
They’re not undercover. They just want to exclude mossad. In fact they’re recognising that intelligence is part of combat operations by adding that phrase to exclude mossad who are everywhere
n/a
1 week ago
Guys why do you think they added "Undercover Israeli operatives and assets will not count." in this new market they made. https://polymarket.com/event/will-israel-troops-enter-beirut-by-october-31 Because they want to make it clear that special ops gathering intelligence DOESN'T COUNT.
abdendriel
1 week ago
It’s clear there’s a consensus of credible reporting that combat operations took place during raids into Lebanon in an intensifying manner in recent days. The raids were part of the preparation for the invasion
0x0067e40e99580bB4f48f377786e1f595557578D4-1722634879022
1 week ago
Think of it a system where we are all unsure about the outcome of this market, nobody really knows how it's going to end (either yes or no). Your best estimator is actually the number of people saying Yes or No not how much they put in value in the market which in this cases causes mispricing since the estimated probability is in favor of No with No/(Sum of Yes and No) is equal to 62.8% during the last 6 hours. Compare that to the market prices right now and you'll notice this is just how big your balls are
abdendriel
1 week ago
Reading the rules, it looks like they’ve already launched a military offensive
abdendriel
1 week ago
That’s because the facts were revealed that they were doing combat operations within Lebanon in the recent days
0x0067e40e99580bB4f48f377786e1f595557578D4-1722634879022
1 week ago
The real probability when taking out the effect of whales is 62.8% in favor of No. In the last 6 hours, the number of No buys stands at 691 while the Yes buys at 409.
abdendriel
1 week ago
The intent of them being there during raids is reported as preparation for the invasion.
n/a
1 week ago
For it to be resolved as “Yes,” Israeli military personnel need to physically enter Lebanese territory specifically for combat operation. Now, “combat operations” means more than just being present—it involves being there with an intent for combat, like setting up a position, advancing into enemy areas, preparing for a potential fight etc. Direct engagement isn’t necessarily required, but the intent must be combat-oriented.On the other hand, intelligence-gathering missions are different. If Israeli troops enter Lebanon purely for reconnaissance or covert information gathering, and there’s no combat objective, that wouldn’t count under the definition of “combat operations” for this market.
abdendriel
1 week ago
CNN, WSJ, all reported that they already conducted raids intensifying leading up to today
abdendriel
1 week ago
https://apnews.com/article/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-gaza-news-09-30-2024-83ea5f243688f309754ec74850de4238
abdendriel
1 week ago
They already have been doing raids
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
Lebanon incursion awaiting cabinet approval, IDF operates in West Bank
abdendriel
1 week ago
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/30/israel-attacks-live-blog-lebanon-yemen-hamas-hezbollah-news-updates-middle-east-crisis
abdendriel
1 week ago
When you take a dump, you control the toilet stall you’re in
abdendriel
1 week ago
Oops I bought yes but forgot to consider the possibility that IDF might not stay
abdendriel
1 week ago
Wonder if the IDF intend to allow Hezbollah to enter their campsite on the Lebanon side once they’ve established it. Controlling who can enter and exit is considered controlling an area
abdendriel
1 week ago
This is the safest market you can get. Rare occasion when somethings already happened but there’s still yes liquidity. Also, an invasion will clear all disputes
abdendriel
1 week ago
They are doing artillery shelling and the tanks are right on the border.
n/a
1 week ago
did they invade?
abdendriel
1 week ago
WSJ, CNN, and now even more news outlets report that US officials confirm that Special Forces raids already happened and have been intensifying up to today.
iwantam4
1 week ago
Why some guys are saying that already resulted in "Yes"?
abdendriel
1 week ago
UN evacuating border
abdendriel
1 week ago
That’s the right move for them.
itsari👻
1 week ago
Lebanese army withdraws from positions on southern border with Israel, sources say
abdendriel
1 week ago
Or maybe I shouldn’t say anything, more expensive yes’s don’t help me
abdendriel
1 week ago
The artillery has started on the border. Artillery, not air strikes
abdendriel
1 week ago
Special forces raids aren’t undercover. Like how undercover cops aren’t in uniform.
n/a
1 week ago
Polymarket knows they made a mistake with this market. They made a new similar market here https://polymarket.com/event/will-israel-troops-enter-beirut-by-october-31/will-israel-troops-enter-beirut-by-october-31?tid=1727720169724 and make it clear in the rules this time that "Undercover Israeli operatives and assets will not count." This market WILL. resolve to "No".
abdendriel
1 week ago
The artillery has started on the border. Artillery, not air strikes
abdendriel
1 week ago
Consensus of credible reporting that the raids intensified over the past few days
Caligulas.dog
1 week ago
I have a feeling this will resolve to yes cause of market manipulations, but, still too good to not be part off
abdendriel
1 week ago
Read the news and the rules. It’s happened. The fun is in the invasion market now
n/a
1 week ago
Just because a bunch of whales buy "Yes" doesn’t mean it’s true. When has something that’s been proposed last been trading at 90c? Whenever something is certain to resolve a particular way, it’s trading at 99c for "Yes" or "No" almost immediately. The fact that this isn’t the case here should tell you everything—there’s clearly a lot of uncertainty because the evidence doesn’t definitively support a "Yes" outcome. The market itself is uncertain, and that’s because the evidence is shaky at best.
abdendriel
1 week ago
He is right though, some people came into this market without reading the details, thinking it’s tick tock. But actually it’s about a reveal of the flop, turn and river, cards that are already on the table
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
Manipulation
abdendriel
1 week ago
You should read the news
n/a
1 week ago
Clear as day.
abdendriel
1 week ago
And also because the conditions are met.
crow
1 week ago
For people wondering why the price of no is still low because there is a guy called 50-pence scammer who keeps buying yes shares thinking that it will resolve to yes if the price of yes is high
abdendriel
1 week ago
IDF sent out photos of their their operational plans approved
abdendriel
1 week ago
That’s why US were pissed that the raids already happened
OhNos
1 week ago
My Guess is Israel will wait for the newly deployed F-15E, F-16, A-10 and F-22 fighter planes to arrive in the Middle East to help protect US troops before invading, My reasoning for taking NO on this market probably the Only US request Israel will listen too lol , remember they need our weapons if they plan to go to war.
abdendriel
1 week ago
They intensified leading up to the upcoming invasion
n/a
1 week ago
These special forces agents carried out "intelligence-gathering" raids as stated by the New York Post. This is the "combat operations" you guys are speaking of? Sounds a lot more like they were trying to AVOID combat. On top of nothing that proves it was done between September 18 and September 30, 2024, 11:59 PM ET?
abdendriel
1 week ago
Enjoy!
n/a
1 week ago
i dont even know nuffin. shit we just hopin
abdendriel
1 week ago
If it wasn’t for him we all could’ve had better yes liquidity
Kavim
1 week ago
50-Pence should be banned
abdendriel
1 week ago
Combat operations include preparation for an invasion. This is widely reported and recapitulated many times. Scroll down
n/a
1 week ago
https://www.timesofisrael.com/troops-said-to-enter-hezbollah-tunnels-with-pre-invasion-forays-into-lebanon/ “The report, which cited unnamed sources familiar with the matter, said the raids have taken place over the past months, as well as more recently, with troops ‘probing’ and gathering intelligence, as activity ramps up ahead of a possible ground offensive.” There is no way you’re telling me we’re gonna be resolving to “Yes” based off this? This entire report is built on vague claims from unnamed sources, talking about “probing” and “gathering intelligence”—there’s nothing here that confirms combat intent.
abdendriel
1 week ago
No it will be the truth
notinventedhere
1 week ago
if this resolve to yes this will be fraud
abdendriel
1 week ago
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/security-cabinet-convenes-as-signs-of-looming-ground-offensive-multiply/
abdendriel
1 week ago
Security Cabinet convening now
abdendriel
1 week ago
Security Cabinet convening now
abdendriel
1 week ago
Given most major news outlets have reported this with US officials as a source, how about the burden of proof is on the No-side?
NothingEverHappens
1 week ago
"The official said: “They are targeting key sites which have been built across the border zone." your guy doesn't even have a name, "credible concensus" can't apply for a rumor like a guy said this or that because we don't know if it's propaganda or else. If you don't have CQB footages or pictures to back that up it doesn't worth anything.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Widely reported raids intensifying in recent days leading up to the invasion. The raids are combat operations (includes even things like desk work)
Porcoddio
1 week ago
This market will resolve to No because of three main reasons: 1) Raids were not combat operation, they were for gathering information and intelligence. You didn't see them bombing anything or killing anyone in these so called "raids". 2) Even if these raids would count (they shouldn't), not a single source knows when these so called "raids" happened. They mention that Israel did it a few months ago since October 7, but this market does not consider anything before September 18. 3) Troops are still not in Lebanon, which is the main reason for why we all placed bets in this market.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Polymarket could hardly exist if that were the case.
NothingEverHappens
1 week ago
If Israel does spec ops they won't claim it "The resolution source for this market will be official confirmation by Hezbollah and Israel, however a consensus of credible reporting may also be used." and what is credible reporting unless you are a shin bet operative with a go pro you can't prove anything.
abdendriel
1 week ago
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1955251/israel-special-forces-lebanon
abdendriel
1 week ago
Just read the news. The raids have been intensifying in recent days leading up to the imminent invasion
n/a
1 week ago
There really is nothing more to add. This is absolutely a “No”.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Consensus of credible reporting doesn’t require individual names
Porcoddio
1 week ago
"A military spokesperson said no ground operation had started and added that the Israel Defense Forces did not comment on special operations." So easy, like seriously.
abdendriel
1 week ago
As they told the US that they would
RoseCharts
1 week ago
We all shitposting but there is still a chance Israel actually invades Lebanon in the next 11 hours lol
abdendriel
1 week ago
The raids are confirmed by a consensus of credible reporting
Porcoddio
1 week ago
"A military spokesperson said no ground operation had started and added that the Israel Defense Forces did not comment on special operations." So easy, like seriously.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Not only IDF soldiers have insights now that the media’s all over the raids
NothingEverHappens
1 week ago
Either it's Whale style pump and dump or we got IDF soldiers with insights going all in. But the thing is that Israel won't invade without a massive carpet bombing or artilery preparation lasting at least for a month. It's very strange + the stuborn guys pushing for YES in the resolution section. I mean I don't know what to think about that.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Anyways, every word of the rules has been backed up with sources now. It would be funny (but actually not funny for those displaced) if the invasion started. “ Israel has notified the US that it intends to launch a limited ground operation into Lebanon that could begin within hours, a US official confirmed to CBS on Monday. ”
abdendriel
1 week ago
Combat operations includes much less violent activities than these raids, which were reported to have damaged hezbollah outposts
Porcoddio
1 week ago
This market will resolve to No because of three main reasons: 1) Raids were not combat operation, they were for gathering information and intelligence. You didn't see them bombing anything or killing anyone in these so called "raids". 2) Even if these raids would count (they shouldn't), Not a single source knows when these so called "raids" happened. They mention that Israel did it a few months ago since October 7. 3) Troops are still not in Lebanon, which is the main reason why we all placed bets here.
abdendriel
1 week ago
They said the imminent invasion won’t be major either. Small raids have happened, limited invasion imminent
SpaceHooves
1 week ago
"As of right now, I can say there are no major ground activities in Lebanon," Israel Defense Forces spokesman Major David Baruch told reporters in Israel Monday afternoon. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-yemen-strikes-houthis-hamas-civilian-deaths/
abdendriel
1 week ago
US Marine Corps Combat Operations Centre (hint: they’re on laptops gathering and collating info) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sep4dLnm-fA
crow
1 week ago
I don't understand how people can't tell the difference between combat operations and military purposes
abdendriel
1 week ago
On the invasion market, yea that’s possible
Kavim
1 week ago
All YES gamblers go lose some money on this too: https://polymarket.com/event/will-israel-invade-lebanon-in-september?tid=1727699860870
abdendriel
1 week ago
Incursion is not in the rules. But newer updates not include the word
Sandor
1 week ago
Your own source disputes your claim: "US officials are currently not describing these Israeli raids as a ground incursion, even as they continue to carefully brace for the possibility of a limited ground operation that could come in the coming days."
abdendriel
1 week ago
They’re not only on Lebanon soil, they’re under it too
Tji22
1 week ago
It clearly says troops on Lebanon soil they still at the border my boy
abdendriel
1 week ago
Their intent is to invade. The operations are reported as part of a wider invasion to degrade Hezbollah
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
For the market to resolve to "Yes," there would need to be a clear indication of Israeli troops engaging in combat within Lebanese territory. Given the current reports, these operations appear to fall short of that threshold, suggesting that they may not meet the criteria for the market.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Reconnaissance in preparation for an invasion is. Also destroying outposts
blameanarchism
1 week ago
For those saying there have been 'physical operations inside Lebanon', would you consider any spy operation in any foreign nation as an invasion?
abdendriel
1 week ago
Many authoritative sources of what’s included in Combat Operations below. USMC combat operations includes working with a laptop, let alone raids to destroy outposts
JoeBETS
1 week ago
It specifically says israel to enter for combat operations. gathering intel or preparing for a potential, does NOT apply..
abdendriel
1 week ago
Those are exactly the rules actually
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
Given that military officials have stated that no decision has been made about a major ground operation, it reinforces your earlier points about the current situation. Until there is a clear commitment from Israel to launch a significant ground offensive that involves crossing into Lebanon with the intent to engage in combat, the raids you've described would likely not fulfill the criteria for the market to resolve to "Yes."
abdendriel
1 week ago
Except from US officials
RoseCharts
1 week ago
There are no official confirmations
abdendriel
1 week ago
But they say they’ve done the comps at operations with the intention of preparing for the invasion
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
Given that military officials have stated that no decision has been made about a major ground operation, it reinforces your earlier points about the current situation. Until there is a clear commitment from Israel to launch a significant ground offensive that involves crossing into Lebanon with the intent to engage in combat, the raids you've described would likely not fulfill the criteria for the market to resolve to "Yes."
abdendriel
1 week ago
Intensifying in recent days
Tories4Harris
1 week ago
MONTHS: The incursions follow months of similar covert missions in which Israeli special forces briefly crossed the Lebanon border for reconnaissance, but have increased in intensity in recent days as commanders prepared for a wider maneuver, three of the officials said.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Well imagine living in Lebanon.
Hamurabi
1 week ago
The Yes went from 13c to 95c in one hour and then straight for resolution and the Yes guys want to convince us that this is perfectly normal and and just happened because it's true 🤣🤣🤣
abdendriel
1 week ago
IDF did
Besh24
1 week ago
He has single handedly resolved this
abdendriel
1 week ago
“Combat Operations”: USMC, USAF, CAF all define it to include screen time work (let along RAIDS / destroying outposts). “Consensus of credible reporting”: first Telegraph reported it was in a briefing, then WSJ, then CNN from US officials. “Recent days” doesn’t mean 2 weeks ago.
abdendriel
1 week ago
“Incursion” isn’t in the rules. It’s Combat Operations
n/a
1 week ago
US officials are currently not describing these Israeli raids as a ground incursion !!!
abdendriel
1 week ago
Rules don’t say anything about “incursion”. Combat Operations
abdendriel
1 week ago
Rules do t say anything
abdendriel
1 week ago
Rules do t say anything
n/a
1 week ago
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk#cm1p0tx1b00003b6mp84lj4hj
abdendriel
1 week ago
CNN now reports the source as “US officials” https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk?Date=20240930&Profile=cnnbrk&utm_content=1727708106&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&t=1727708687285
abdendriel
1 week ago
A consensus of credible reporting may also be used. Read the rules
3,3
1 week ago
How amusing these attempts are to present articles from the NYTimes/WSJ/other American media as truth, instead of waiting for official statements from Israel/Lebanon.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Plenty of authoritative sources provided below on what’s included in “combat operations”. Desk work included according to USMC
subtledrift
1 week ago
no news article says "combat" operation. most say "limited ground" operation
abdendriel
1 week ago
Point being, combat operations doesn’t equate to shootout. But it definitely includes special forces Raids
abdendriel
1 week ago
In case anyone’s interested in Combat Operations jobs with the Canadian Armed Forces (there are desk jobs available) https://forces.ca/en/careers/combat
abdendriel
1 week ago
Legally combat operations includes even includes cyber https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/combat-operations
abdendriel
1 week ago
In case anyone’s interested in Combat Operations jobs with the Canadian Armed Forces (there are desk jobs available) https://forces.ca/en/careers/combat
abdendriel
1 week ago
US Marine Corps Combat Operations Centre (hint: they’re on laptops gathering and collating info) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sep4dLnm-fA
abdendriel
1 week ago
https://irp.fas.org/doddir/army/fm34-1/ch4.htm
abdendriel
1 week ago
Federation of American Scientists on Combat Operations (includes a lot of non fighting activities, like rear operations)
abdendriel
1 week ago
Federation of American Scientists on Combat Operations (includes a lot of non fighting activities, like rear operations)
abdendriel
1 week ago
How USAF defines combat operations is relevant, as a branch of the worlds most significant military
abdendriel
1 week ago
“Division members execute the ATO through constant command and control of the battle space, subordinate Theater Air Control System elements and assigned assets. The COD adjusts the ATO in response to changing situations such as battlefield dynamics, maintenance problems or adverse weather, and publishes changes to the ATO and the Airspace Control Order at throughout each execution day. The COD assumes responsibility for the next day’s ATO as soon as it is released from the Combat Plans Division. Organization The COD is led operationally by the Chief of Combat Operations. Specific mission requirements dictate the elements that comprise the COD at any given time. The COD is composed of offensive, defensive, and intelligence duty officers as well as weather, airspace management, and joint personnel recovery representatives. Liaison teams representing sister services, Coalition countries, various weapons systems and other specialties also augment the COD. Depending on the nature of the operations, typical liaison teams include the Army Battlefield Detachment, Navy and Amphibious Liaison Element, Special Operations Liaison Element, Marine Liaison Officer, Coalition liaisons, and other platform-specific liaisons with detailed knowledge of their aircraft.”
abdendriel
1 week ago
“Division members execute the ATO through constant command and control of the battle space, subordinate Theater Air Control System elements and assigned assets. The COD adjusts the ATO in response to changing situations such as battlefield dynamics, maintenance problems or adverse weather, and publishes changes to the ATO and the Airspace Control Order at throughout each execution day. The COD assumes responsibility for the next day’s ATO as soon as it is released from the Combat Plans Division. Organization The COD is led operationally by the Chief of Combat Operations. Specific mission requirements dictate the elements that comprise the COD at any given time. The COD is composed of offensive, defensive, and intelligence duty officers as well as weather, airspace management, and joint personnel recovery representatives. Liaison teams representing sister services, Coalition countries, various weapons systems and other specialties also augment the COD. Depending on the nature of the operations, typical liaison teams include the Army Battlefield Detachment, Navy and Amphibious Liaison Element, Special Operations Liaison Element, Marine Liaison Officer, Coalition liaisons, and other platform-specific liaisons with detailed knowledge of their aircraft.”
abdendriel
1 week ago
USAF: “ The Combat Operations Division (COD) executes and monitors the Combined Force Air Component Commander’s daily Air Tasking Order (ATO), a document that directs daily air operations with respect to aircraft sorties, weapons loads and operational tasks. As one of five divisions within the Combined Air Operations Center (CAOC), the COD enables the CAOC to meet its mission as the primary command and control facility for Coalition air operations in the U.S. Central Command’s (USCENTCOM) Area of Responsibility (AOR). The COD serves as the CAOC’s dynamic around-the-clock operations floor.” https://www.afcent.af.mil/About/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/217807/
abdendriel
1 week ago
USAF: “ The Combat Operations Division (COD) executes and monitors the Combined Force Air Component Commander’s daily Air Tasking Order (ATO), a document that directs daily air operations with respect to aircraft sorties, weapons loads and operational tasks. As one of five divisions within the Combined Air Operations Center (CAOC), the COD enables the CAOC to meet its mission as the primary command and control facility for Coalition air operations in the U.S. Central Command’s (USCENTCOM) Area of Responsibility (AOR). The COD serves as the CAOC’s dynamic around-the-clock operations floor.” https://www.afcent.af.mil/About/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/217807/
abdendriel
1 week ago
A consensus of reporting clearly state that the raids are part of a wider invasion.
n/a
1 week ago
Yes, “combat operations” isn’t just “combat,” but the key here is that “combat” must still be an intended part of the operation. What we see here are raids focused on intelligence gathering, probing, and targeting infrastructure—there’s no clear intent for direct combat. The market requires Israeli forces to be deployed with the intent for combat, not just to collect information or disrupt infrastructure. Think about the Cold War: when the Americans and Soviets were spying on each other, was the intent for combat or simply gathering intelligence? It was clearly intelligence gathering, not combat. Similarly, these recent raids are about preparation and intel, not combat, therefore this should clearly resolve to “No.”
abdendriel
1 week ago
The 7 functions of Combat : https://advancedforcesgroup.com/en/the-7-functions-of-combat/
abdendriel
1 week ago
Combat Operations : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
1 week ago
Again, combat operations, not combat alone. There’s a reason the word operations is in there.
n/a
1 week ago
Every piece of evidence out there talks about intelligence gathering, probing, and targeting infrastructure. These raids have been going on for months and are clearly part of a preparation strategy. There’s absolutely no credible source that mentions Israeli troops being deployed with the intent for direct combat. “Combat” literally means “fighting between armed forces”—not intelligence gathering or probing. The sources cited are vague and anonymous, lacking any named individuals or concrete intel with specific dates or times. It is clear as day that this must resolve to “No.”
abdendriel
1 week ago
No holders looking for ways out
abdendriel
1 week ago
It’s true, anything can happen in war.
VaithunPhuSang-Fabric
1 week ago
the market is crazy to predict :)))
abdendriel
1 week ago
CNN reports that the special forces raids included damaging Hezbollah outposts in preparation for the invasion. Those are exactly the kind of combat operations special operations personnel would conduct.
abdendriel
1 week ago
A scammer is someone who tells you that online betting is actually a AAA bond with unusually high interest.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Combat operations isn’t limited to a shootout. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
1 week ago
Not the only source. WSJ, CNN, Telegraph reported it. telegraph’s source was a briefing.
Nobody3
1 week ago
So the Anonymous source was bragging to his drinking buddies. No confirmation from Hezbollah. I have to confess, I can finally confess, I was that Anonymous Source
abdendriel
1 week ago
It’s funny how Yes holders are all providing research and sources while No holders are all threats.
abdendriel
1 week ago
The rules work on consensus of credible reporting. Right now they point to Yes. Burden of proof is on the counter argument.
n/a
1 week ago
There simply is no proof to answer this question yes. An unnamed US source said recently there where reconaissance operations. It does not say anything if it happened in the time frame from the 18th of September until today. We all agree that proof is needed to resolve, whether it is a polymarket or a legal case. And there is none yet.
abdendriel
1 week ago
“ At the strategic level, a phase continue for years. Not all phases of combat include fighting between armed forces. Phases can, and usually do overlap, and sometimes can be planned for parallel execution, often as part of deception planning. Phases typically found in offensive military operations are: Preparation Intelligence gathering phase[1] Operations planning phase Logistics management phase Deception and counterintelligence phase Assembly phase” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(combat)
abdendriel
1 week ago
Combat operations you mean
🤺JustKen
1 week ago
I think this is a good breakdown of the Yes/No arguments -- it will ultimately come down to how Polymarket defines "combat" -- https://discord.com/channels/710897173927297116/817444472009785366/1290308846543179802
abdendriel
1 week ago
Those aren’t the rules.
n/a
1 week ago
There’s no verified report of Israeli forces being deployed with the specific intent to neutralize threats or capture high-value targets in combat situations. Until there’s clear evidence of direct combat engagement, this market cannot justifiably resolve to “Yes”.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Consensus of credible reporting also accepted
0x64D754C44852208575F9500ED1E4F10e6AD1512A-1722659354305
1 week ago
No official confirmation from either israel or hezbollah. A few reports the media talking about intelligence missions. This market cant resolve to yes.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Operations is widely accepted as work. Combat operations as the work involved in combat.
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
Definition of ”combat”: fighting between armed forces
abdendriel
1 week ago
If someone told you there are AAA rated high yield bonds in prediction markets, that’s a scam.
Porcoddio
1 week ago
If there is any justice, at least one of two things will happen: 1) Market will be resolved as No. 2) People will realize the scam and start bidding No.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Combat OPERATIONS includes various phases. Also, they destroyed Hezbollah outposts as reported by CNN
n/a
1 week ago
The literal definition of "Combat" is literally "Fighting between armed forces." I think that's all that needs to be said guys.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Entering Lebanon is not disputed, it is widely reported that military personnel entered Lebanon
n/a
1 week ago
While a combat operation may not always involve shooting, the market rules require evidence of Israeli troops entering Lebanese territory specifically for combat. The current evidence shows intelligence gathering and infrastructure targeting, not combat with enemy forces. Even if a combat operation can be broader, intent matters. If the actions were not undertaken with the intent to engage in combat, they do not meet the market’s definition.
abdendriel
1 week ago
CNN has reported that the Special Forces raids destroyed Hesbollah outposts
RBvKrsr7ZfRK
1 week ago
So far, there was only preparation for combat operations. It’s not yet decided whether there will be a combat operation at all, it could change any minute, however.
abdendriel
1 week ago
But Israel aren’t planning on invading 100 countries. Reporting consensus is that the raids are in preparation for an invasion of Lebanon
n/a
1 week ago
Oh... here we go. The yes guys trying to make the Israeli infiltration mission of spies look like a ground combat operation... Well how many countries are on this planet? 195. I would say that at least in 100 of them Mossad agents have done missions. Were all of these considered ground combat operations?? I beg to differ.
abdendriel
1 week ago
No, it requires combat OPERATIONS. At the strategic level, a phase continue for years. Not all phases of combat include fighting between armed forces. Phases can, and usually do overlap, and sometimes can be planned for parallel execution, often as part of deception planning. Phases typically found in offensive military operations are: Preparation Intelligence gathering phase[1] Operations planning phase Logistics management phase Deception and counterintelligence phase Assembly phase“
n/a
1 week ago
While a combat operation may not always involve shooting, the market rules require evidence of Israeli troops entering Lebanese territory specifically for combat. The current evidence shows intelligence gathering and infrastructure targeting, not combat with enemy forces. Even if a combat operation can be broader, intent matters. If the actions were not undertaken with the intent to engage in combat, they do not meet the market’s definition.
abdendriel
1 week ago
Reconnaissance by special forces are the exact definition of combat OPERATIONS
abdendriel
1 week ago
AI isn’t the resolution source. Bar fights, street brawls are combat but so reasonably person would call that operations.
abdendriel
1 week ago
AI isn’t the resolution source. Bar fights, street brawls are combat but so reasonably person would call that operations.
n/a
1 week ago
Intent of operations: The reported Israeli incursions into Lebanon appear to be primarily focused on intelligence gathering, infrastructure targeting, and preparatory operations, rather than direct combat engagement as required by the market criteria. Lack of official confirmation: There is no official confirmation from Israel or Hezbollah regarding these operations, which is a key requirement for resolution according to the market rules. Ongoing nature of operations: The reported raids and intelligence gathering activities have been occurring for months, suggesting they are part of a prolonged campaign rather than a specific combat event within the specified timeframe. Credibility of sources: The reports rely heavily on anonymous sources and potentially biased reporting, without official verification from the parties involved Lack of clear combat evidence: There is no verifiable evidence of Israeli troops entering Lebanon specifically for combat operations as defined by the market criteria The reported activities do not meet the specific requirements outlined in the market criteria for combat operations. Therefore, based on the current evidence and the market's stated resolution criteria, the market should resolve to "No”.
abdendriel
1 week ago
That’s not the resolution source though
n/a
1 week ago
Ask any AI you want they're gonna say it should resolve to "No".
abdendriel
1 week ago
I don’t know anyone who considers “2 weeks ago” as recent days
JJJAY
1 week ago
Can you please explain to me how you deducted that this “small raids” happened between 18th to 30th of September from the words”recent days”?
abdendriel
1 week ago
As a favour to save you money on disputes, here’s CNN: “ Israeli special forces have carried out small raids into Lebanese territory in recent days as part of preparations for a potential ground offensive, two sources familiar with the matter said. Israeli commandos infiltrated Lebanese territory, targeting Hezbollah positions near the border to gather intelligence and destroy Hezbollah posts in the area, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military matters.” https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-09-30-24-intl-hnk?Date=20240930&Profile=cnnbrk&utm_content=1727701705&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#cm1oyu2yo00053b6mbx617w0l
abdendriel
1 week ago
Walk into a bar brawl. Are they conducting operations? In fact the special force targeted raids are more like combat operations
n/a
1 week ago
When Israeli soldiers enter Lebanon and start fighting, then you might call yourselves winners.
abdendriel
1 week ago
The IDF?
Porcoddio
1 week ago
This market has a volume of more than $890,000 and the (false) outcome was manipulated by one scammer.