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The discussion on the market 'Will Russia capture Toretsk before October?' revolves around skepticism and conflicting reports regarding the advance of Russian troops in Toretsk. Several users reference updates from ISW (Institute for the Study of War) and Russian sources, debating whether Russian claims of capturing parts of Toretsk, including a street near a church, are valid. Participants also discuss the reliability and timing of map updates from various sources, questioning the strategic significance of recent Russian moves.

  • Intermittent Updates: Users frequently cite updates from ISW and other sources, noting delays and discrepancies which fuel skepticism regarding the situation on the ground.
  • Debate on Validity: There is significant debate over the validity and strategic importance of Russian advancements in Toretsk, with some claiming they are capturing non-strategic streets that don't contribute to broader military goals.
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AugustoPinochet73
1 month ago
I just hope both teams have fun
tsybka
1 month ago
Fighters from the elite Azov unit recently arrived at the Toretsk sector, stabilized the situation, and reclaimed part of New York.
Prof3852
1 week ago
Мої вітання усім хто вірив у ВСУ на цій ділянці фронту!
CompulsiveGambler
1 month ago
I have toretsk syndrome
HaterzLoserz
2 weeks ago
Could go either way, Russia made a push but its one of those long narrow breakthroughs where Ukraine potentially still has controlling of the flanking buildings making it very hard for russia to keep pushing thru the central line deeper to the church. Ukraine has surely been expecting this and has reinforced those positions heavily. This may turn into a meat grinder for the next week and save the No side. But if Russia throws enough at this, then it likely makes sense for ukraine to cut losses and fall back to the next line in the city.
0x5597227C5009fF5A634F89793b63677B1345fF1B-1723553586894
1 month ago
Summary - On average, it takes about 60 days to capture such a city (fighting for the city has not yet started). - Nearby settlements need to be cleared. - The Russians will not have the element of surprise as they did at the beginning of the fighting for New York. - Some reserves will be redirected to the Kursk direction (aircraft are already being moved). - The city is surrounded by terrikons (waste piles from mines). - There is a significant number of multi-story buildings on the side of the anticipated offensive. The Russians are expected to capture Toretsk in 2024, but 45 days is extremely insufficient for such an operation
n/a
1 month ago
You know you fucked up when MrBest comes and lits you up. NO holders in shambles
tsybka
1 month ago
+ rainy season will begin very soon, and the front line will stall.
tsybka
1 month ago
Fighters from the elite Azov unit recently arrived at the Toretsk sector, stabilized the situation, and reclaimed part of New York.
n/a
1 month ago
Nope, they all hang out at the bar and sing traditional slavic songs together. It's quite a sight
AugustoPinochet73
1 month ago
Honest question, there is any fighting during weekends? I dont see maps moving
MORON
3 weeks ago
-$484.17
LEVSKI
3 weeks ago
The Russian units are 19 minutes on foot and 4 minutes by car from the church. In my opinion, the Russians should continue in the same spirit and destroy the enemy without rushing. Now or in 2 months the city will be liberated. You just have to act carefully